Can organic eating help strengthen immune system & help PA & FA?

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 1:19am
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I was just wondering how whole food nutrition plays a role in our immune systems response to FA & etc. I'm new to this & I was wondering if there are some links to answer some of my many questions? Some of my family members seem to think that strengthening my immune system & eating healthier would help. I know that my reactions appear to be getting stronger & more frequent. Sat. night I went to a harvest festival at our church. About 30 min. after we were there, my eyes started burning & then my right eye swelled a little bit, but everyone was eating nut covered caramel apples & wrapped snickers candy bars.

Then last night I made eggplant parmesean & something gave me a reaction. I suspect possibly the breadcrumbs. They were no name brand, but I found the Progresso brand & they contain sunflower seeds & other things. Also, the eggplant made my tongue tingly, not sure if I'm just imagining this. Anyways, sorry this is so long, I was just wanting other's input.

Thanks!

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 1:29am
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I think if you are allergic to eggplant, you will also be allergic to organic eggplant!
Have you spoken with your allergist about finding out what is triggering your allergies?
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mom to Ari(6) - severe nut allergies, asthma, you name it - and Maya (9), mild excema

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 1:30am
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I don't know about healthier eating in general. After all, your immune system is probably strong - it's overreacting. But reactions tend to get stronger and more frequent the more you're exposed to the allergen. So the more you ingest or touch or inhale the thing you're allergic to, the more your body's likely to remember that this is the thing it needs to fight. And overall allergic load seems to affect it, too. At least with asthma, people stay at a more reactive level for a while after an attack, so they might react more severely to a trigger the next time, or they might react to a milder trigger. I suspect it's the same for other allergic conditions.

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 1:35am
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I have a dr.'s apt this afternoon. I haven't been to an allergist yet. I'm new to all of this & I'm scheduled with an allergist 11/27. I just noticed that when I ate eggplant last night, my tongue felt tingly, no swelling. Also, I've noticed the same thing with celery.
I know that I'm reacting to peanuts & pecans for sure. I"m just avoiding ALL NUTS, until I'm tested. Even if the test comes back negative to nuts, I'm still avoiding nuts, because they make my eye swell & give me welts under my eyes. & I itch all over my arms & face.
Thanks for you anwers.

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 5:23am
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I react to eggplant! Nothing major, but throat/mouth tingling.
Re: the organic issue. I'm all for organic vegetables and fruits and milk and meats (when I finish my degree and get a job, eating organic will be a priority). . . don't know about pesticides and the immune system, but I don't think pesticides can be very good for us.
I do think there can be a difference between the allergenicity of organic fruits and veggies and non organic. I read something once that the ethylene gas used to ripen bananas (and other fruits too, I think . . . not sure) promotes the creation of an allergenic protein . . . bananas not ripened in this manner have less of that particular protein. (I would *guess* that organic bananas would be ripened naturally???)
So . . .yes . . . the processing can alter the food.

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 6:31am
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Some people with allergies have Oral Allergy Syndrome. This means that they have a localized reaction in their mouths to certain fruits and vegetables. Usually, thoroughly cooking fruits and vegetables breaks down the proteins that cause the reaction. I remember seeing other members here say that they have experienced this type of reaction. You could do a search on it here or Google "Oral Allergy Syndrome".
It's something to ask the allergist about at your appointment.
Cathy
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Mom to 7 yr old PA/TNA daughter and 3 1/2 yr old son who is allergic to eggs.

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 2:02pm
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I use organic products whenever I can...I have fed both my kids organic produce, organic milk and dairy products, grains since they were born. One has a peanut allergy and one does not.
I still believe organic is the best option, but for reasons unrelating to PA. BUT REMEMBER THAT PEANUTS AND TREE NUTS ARE ALL NATURAL AND ARE IN MANY ORGANIC PRODUCTS. I stress this because Earth Best Baby Food has been found to contain traces of peanuts/nuts...exposing babies too early has been linked to developing food allergies. I used this product and I sometimes wonder whether Joy would be allergic if I had used Gerber...
So with organic products, as well as regular products you have to check, check, and recheck out manufactuers and ingredients.

Posted on: Tue, 11/07/2006 - 12:50am
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Well...
I think organic fruits/veggies are just overprices fruits/veggies.
Why buy them, if you can get the cheaper stuff?
To me, an organic apple tastes like an un-organic apple... But Im the same person that thinks frozen yogurt tastes like ice cream [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Why waste money on something like that is my motto.
JMTC
Jason
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[b]* Obsessed * [/b]

Posted on: Tue, 11/07/2006 - 2:17am
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At least I'm not alone, Jason. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Of course, DH doesn't even rinse an apple before he takes a bite. Wipes it sometimes.... but no rinse. Which freaks me out for a [i]whole host of reasons.... few of them pesticide related... most of them would be considered "all natural," in fact.[/i] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img]
So no, I don't buy the entire "organic" line in terms of real differences in food itself. It [i]is[/i] better for the environment to buy produce which is sustainably produced locally. Which I do-- but not because it's "organic." (though some of it is...)

Posted on: Tue, 11/07/2006 - 2:41am
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I have heard , not really looked into it , but that because organics are pesticide free sometimes the alternative is a derivitive of shell fish , which my allergist told me to not expose my PA child too at all because of a realted link between Pa and shell fish allergies.
So as a rule I stay away from organics.
I will research that info now...

Posted on: Tue, 11/07/2006 - 2:53pm
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I don't know if organic foods are totally better than their regular counterparts. I think it really depends on the food. For example, grapes and berries are often heavily sprayed. Whereas, you take the peel off an orange, right?
I think what helped my health improve more than anything else was cutting out all the heavily processed stuff, transfats, high fructose corn syrup. Also, we filter our drinking water.

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 1:29am
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I think if you are allergic to eggplant, you will also be allergic to organic eggplant!
Have you spoken with your allergist about finding out what is triggering your allergies?
------------------
mom to Ari(6) - severe nut allergies, asthma, you name it - and Maya (9), mild excema

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 1:30am
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I don't know about healthier eating in general. After all, your immune system is probably strong - it's overreacting. But reactions tend to get stronger and more frequent the more you're exposed to the allergen. So the more you ingest or touch or inhale the thing you're allergic to, the more your body's likely to remember that this is the thing it needs to fight. And overall allergic load seems to affect it, too. At least with asthma, people stay at a more reactive level for a while after an attack, so they might react more severely to a trigger the next time, or they might react to a milder trigger. I suspect it's the same for other allergic conditions.

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 1:35am
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I have a dr.'s apt this afternoon. I haven't been to an allergist yet. I'm new to all of this & I'm scheduled with an allergist 11/27. I just noticed that when I ate eggplant last night, my tongue felt tingly, no swelling. Also, I've noticed the same thing with celery.
I know that I'm reacting to peanuts & pecans for sure. I"m just avoiding ALL NUTS, until I'm tested. Even if the test comes back negative to nuts, I'm still avoiding nuts, because they make my eye swell & give me welts under my eyes. & I itch all over my arms & face.
Thanks for you anwers.

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 5:23am
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I react to eggplant! Nothing major, but throat/mouth tingling.
Re: the organic issue. I'm all for organic vegetables and fruits and milk and meats (when I finish my degree and get a job, eating organic will be a priority). . . don't know about pesticides and the immune system, but I don't think pesticides can be very good for us.
I do think there can be a difference between the allergenicity of organic fruits and veggies and non organic. I read something once that the ethylene gas used to ripen bananas (and other fruits too, I think . . . not sure) promotes the creation of an allergenic protein . . . bananas not ripened in this manner have less of that particular protein. (I would *guess* that organic bananas would be ripened naturally???)
So . . .yes . . . the processing can alter the food.

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 6:31am
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Joined: 03/15/2005 - 09:00

Some people with allergies have Oral Allergy Syndrome. This means that they have a localized reaction in their mouths to certain fruits and vegetables. Usually, thoroughly cooking fruits and vegetables breaks down the proteins that cause the reaction. I remember seeing other members here say that they have experienced this type of reaction. You could do a search on it here or Google "Oral Allergy Syndrome".
It's something to ask the allergist about at your appointment.
Cathy
------------------
Mom to 7 yr old PA/TNA daughter and 3 1/2 yr old son who is allergic to eggs.

Posted on: Mon, 11/06/2006 - 2:02pm
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I use organic products whenever I can...I have fed both my kids organic produce, organic milk and dairy products, grains since they were born. One has a peanut allergy and one does not.
I still believe organic is the best option, but for reasons unrelating to PA. BUT REMEMBER THAT PEANUTS AND TREE NUTS ARE ALL NATURAL AND ARE IN MANY ORGANIC PRODUCTS. I stress this because Earth Best Baby Food has been found to contain traces of peanuts/nuts...exposing babies too early has been linked to developing food allergies. I used this product and I sometimes wonder whether Joy would be allergic if I had used Gerber...
So with organic products, as well as regular products you have to check, check, and recheck out manufactuers and ingredients.

Posted on: Tue, 11/07/2006 - 12:50am
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Well...
I think organic fruits/veggies are just overprices fruits/veggies.
Why buy them, if you can get the cheaper stuff?
To me, an organic apple tastes like an un-organic apple... But Im the same person that thinks frozen yogurt tastes like ice cream [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Why waste money on something like that is my motto.
JMTC
Jason
------------------
[b]* Obsessed * [/b]

Posted on: Tue, 11/07/2006 - 2:17am
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At least I'm not alone, Jason. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Of course, DH doesn't even rinse an apple before he takes a bite. Wipes it sometimes.... but no rinse. Which freaks me out for a [i]whole host of reasons.... few of them pesticide related... most of them would be considered "all natural," in fact.[/i] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img]
So no, I don't buy the entire "organic" line in terms of real differences in food itself. It [i]is[/i] better for the environment to buy produce which is sustainably produced locally. Which I do-- but not because it's "organic." (though some of it is...)

Posted on: Tue, 11/07/2006 - 2:41am
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I have heard , not really looked into it , but that because organics are pesticide free sometimes the alternative is a derivitive of shell fish , which my allergist told me to not expose my PA child too at all because of a realted link between Pa and shell fish allergies.
So as a rule I stay away from organics.
I will research that info now...

Posted on: Tue, 11/07/2006 - 2:53pm
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I don't know if organic foods are totally better than their regular counterparts. I think it really depends on the food. For example, grapes and berries are often heavily sprayed. Whereas, you take the peel off an orange, right?
I think what helped my health improve more than anything else was cutting out all the heavily processed stuff, transfats, high fructose corn syrup. Also, we filter our drinking water.

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