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Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 5:07am
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Quote:Originally posted by 2BusyBoys:
[b]What is your suggestion/solution for those of us dealing with MFA? "Tell them to stop it"? All food? This is what I find difficult and what must also be difficult for FAAN to find balance as well. While I do agree that FAAN could improve I appreciate the work that they have done.
Edited to add [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Just wondering [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img][/b]
I know this wasn't specifically directed to me, but I'll share my thoughts because I like how my elementary school eventually addressed this... "food free classrooms". Period. So food is essentially cofnined to the cafeteria.
For lunch in the cafeteria, all children are provided a safe lunch by the SD. All children practice "universal" cleaning precautions (handwashing, table cleaning) are supervised by staff [i]before and after [/i]eating lunch.

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 5:12am
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i have stacks of things the school district routinely [i]demands [/i] i verify [i]in writing[/i].
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Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 5:14am
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Thank you Gail.

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 5:20am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b] maybe they need to get someone who is an "expert" in Special Education Law on their team of advisors?
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[i]no landsharks allowed.[/i]

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 5:23am
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Quote:Originally posted by samirosenjacken:
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PB&J uncrustables are served and are available to any child who wants it. I've never seen it listed on the menu as one of the "choices" but it is there and it is an option for a child. [/b]
I hate unwritten rules. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img] Especially ones that not everyone may know about.

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 5:26am
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thank you gail
yes, if you want that food free classroom...tell them to stop it. Food is not required in the classroom for education. Get the accomidations that your child has a right to.
My point was, tell them what *you* want, for *your* child, not what fann says is best. If your schools serves pbj every day and you think reducing the amount of uneccesary food in the cafeteria will help your child yes...tell them to stop it. Peanut butter is not a food group or a requirement. Kids who eat nothing but that, can bring it, thus reducing the amount. Kids who forget lunches can eat a cheese sandwich, or something else. I dont know which mfa you are dealing with. With MFA it may not reasonable to require a school to remove wheat for example or milk but maybe sesame or watermelon is possible. But you have the right to ask for it. If your child likes sitting at the special table that faan advocates that works for you.
Faan should not be a school's deciding factor in how a food allergy is handled. Maybe I am wrong, but faan has never shown options that work for different families and different schools. Why is that?
I think the bottom line is they should be seen as a resource(a very good one) but not *the* experts.
edeted becuz i spel lik a kidergardener.
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Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 5:34am
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Quote:Originally posted by samirosenjacken[/b]: As an alternative to all-out food bans, FAN suggests establishing peanut-free or milk-free tables in the school cafeteria [/b]
honestly? This infuriates me. This is [i]completely wrong[/i] for *my* child on the Autism Spectrum[/i]. In so many ways. My child *needs* to be with his classmates. [i]Especially at lunch.[/i] But I only speak for myself......My child.

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 5:42am
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b] A little like "don't ask, don't tell" ? ?
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you mean like: "Ok, this will placate parent(s) xyz, for their problem qrs, but keep it hush, don't make it "official" or parent(s) abc might realize they are entitled to the same thing for problem lmo. We don't want that to happen." ??

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 6:19am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
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I hate unwritten rules. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img] Especially ones that not everyone may know about.[/b]
You know what, I am so confused. I don't understand this comment nor do I understand the "don't ask don't tell" comment.
My children go to a wonderful school. We have a principal who cares, a staff with empathy and compassion and a school nurse I trust with my daughters' lives. There are no hidden agendas or secrets. My daughters have peanut free classrooms considered their "safe zones." I have a 504 for one and not the other. I have fabulous teachers who call me with any questions, who refrain from eating peanut butter before and during school (their choice not because I issued a mandate of any kind). My children have friends who sit with them every day at the peanut free table.. who avoid peanuts and peanut butter even at home... again, their choice not because of any mandate. The cafeteria manager chooses what foods to serve and how to serve them at her discretion.. not mine. We have cafeteria aids who consistently monitor the peanut free table for kids who should not be there. I've had so many teachers and workers tell me they will treat my children as if they were their own!
In a nutshell, we have a wonderful safe support system and there is no conspiracy going on. So I guess I should apologize to you for having such a fabulous school and for the fact my children don't have to run and hide in a panic if Mr. Peanut walks by?!

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 7:21am
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Quote:Originally posted by samirosenjacken:
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You know what, I am so confused. I don't understand this comment nor do I understand the "don't ask don't tell" comment.
My children go to a wonderful school. We have a principal who cares, a staff with empathy and compassion and a school nurse I trust with my daughters' lives. There are no hidden agendas or secrets. My daughters have peanut free classrooms considered their "safe zones." I have a 504 for one and not the other. I have fabulous teachers who call me with any questions, who refrain from eating peanut butter before and during school (their choice not because I issued a mandate of any kind). My children have friends who sit with them every day at the peanut free table.. who avoid peanuts and peanut butter even at home... again, their choice not because of any mandate. The cafeteria manager chooses what foods to serve and how to serve them at her discretion.. not mine. We have cafeteria aids who consistently monitor the peanut free table for kids who should not be there. I've had so many teachers and workers tell me they will treat my children as if they were their own!
In a nutshell, we have a wonderful safe support system and there is no conspiracy going on. So I guess I should apologize to you for having such a fabulous school and for the fact my children don't have to run and hide in a panic if Mr. Peanut walks by?! [/b]
you know, I'm beginning to feel [i]tarred and feathered[/i]. I mean, you asked, did you not?
Anywhooooooooo, no apology necessary, I never asked for one. And thank you very much, my children are well adjusted. Probably too well. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] They're not afraid of very much at all. Including "Mr. Peanut". (How did that enter this discussion?) [i]Good one.[/i] Nice.
Even *that* never came flying across the table during numerous IEP meetings. (whew---that might have ended the discussions period. I mean, I might have ended up homeschooling -again- after a comment like that. I mean, I came pretty close the last time a school staff member rolled their eyes at me.)

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