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Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 2:29am
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At out school, The cafeteria has been forbidden to sell any peanut items. They decided to inculde may contains as part of that.
Kids can still pack it. They must use wipes immediatly and wash hands after lunch.
Whether or not kids are sensitive to those sandwiches being around was not the issue for me, I didnt want to find out, ever.
My goal in every aspect of my son's world is to reduce the risk as much as possible.
Yes we go to resturants, playgrounds but we do not go to peanut festivals or places where we know large amounts of peanut products will be found. We go to ballgames, the circus, and just about anywhere. We do not go into steakhouses with peanuts and I will no longer be able to fly usair(my latest quest, keep you eyes open...i am quite relentless). I call ahead and get arrangements for us.
Removing alternative pbj lunch reduces the amount of PB in the school. Its still there but much less of it.
Some parents of pa kids before me just didnt realize they had the option.
Tell them to stop it. Sounds like a title for a book I could write.
anyway...I think I just committed hijacking.

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 2:41am
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Quote:Originally posted by samirosenjacken:
[b]
Ok, I guess I just don't see it as a "ban" According to websters dictionary, BAN is defined as: To prohibit, especially by official decree. See Synonyms at forbid.
This isn't the case at my school with reference to the cafeteria. There is no "offical decree" and the food is not "FORBIDDEN" For whatever reason they chose not to prepare pbj on the premises and serve it pre packaged. I don't see it as a BAN. They have chosen one food over another.. that is a "ban" it is a choice and as I stated, if they couldn't find an alternative, I am sure they would have served the ones with the labeling. Maybe it has nothing to do with labeling and has everything to do with cost. I haven't a clue. But I would not say that my school has any ban in place... with the exception of my dds' classrooms. Both rooms have "banned" peanuts and nuts. It is clearly forbidden by offical decreee (and a 504 plan) that no allergen be knowingly brought into their rooms in any way. [/b]
Are the cafeteria accommodations as discussed in your 504? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 2:48am
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I am just wondering.... if a parent were to ask the school to server PB&J for lunch how would they respond? You say they have chosen not to serve it. Would they refuse the parent's request? Would that parent not see it as if PB were "forbidden" or "banned"?
Just curious!
deb

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 3:22am
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[b]An uproar occured with one parent actually stating she didn't care if a PA child ate something that had peanuts in it.. that would alleviate the problem according to her.[/b]
My mouth literally dropped open when I read this, and I started to well up. I am horrified --- and honestly, I would hope that the parent who stated that would end up shunned by anyone and everyone around them, and that the school would kick them out for stating that. All over peanuts. People are truly pathetic.

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 3:25am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
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Are the cafeteria accommodations as discussed in your 504? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
[/b]
No.
and let me just add, for the record, I only have a 504 for my 2nd DD not my 1st. And I only have the 504 b/c the principal at the K center was not very accomodating and wouldn't work with us at all to help promote a safe environment for Sam. We ended up going to the superintendent's office and filing a complaint and we did a 504 to force her to comply. We only wanted the same precautions that her sister already had in place at the elementary school. Now both girls are at the same school, following the same precautions and I probably don't need the 504 anymore.
[This message has been edited by samirosenjacken (edited March 09, 2006).]

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 3:26am
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Quote:Originally posted by DebO:
[b]I am just wondering.... if a parent were to ask the school to server PB&J for lunch how would they respond? You say they have chosen not to serve it. Would they refuse the parent's request? Would that parent not see it as if PB were "forbidden" or "banned"?
Just curious!
deb[/b]
PB&J uncrustables are served and are available to any child who wants it. I've never seen it listed on the menu as one of the "choices" but it is there and it is an option for a child.

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 4:24am
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Quote:Originally posted by samirosenjacken:
[b]PB&J uncrustables are served and are available to any child who wants it. I've never seen it listed on the menu as one of the "choices" but it is there and it is an option for a child. [/b]
A little like "don't ask, don't tell" ? ?
Quote:Originally posted by samirosenjacken:
[b] And as I stated before, I happen to agree with them that bans aren't going to solve the problems we face as parents of food allergic children. If a school chooses to go peanut/nut free, I salute them.. I commend them.. I respect them. If they don't, as long as they are willing to allow the parents to enforce accomodations to ensure the safety of their children, I can support that too. [/b]
And as I've also stated before, [i]so do I[/i]: Never asked for a ban myself. That's not the point.
ANYONE, can you please show me where FAAN has stated in any publication that bans have been successfully implemented in [i]some[/i] schools? for [i]some[/i] children? [i]in some instances[/i]? Can someone show me that FAAN states [i]the possibility[/i] that bans may be implemented successfully in schools? Or where they've studied various ways where schools successfully [i]restrict[/i] food?
Maybe my information is wrong or simply out of date. I would love to stand corrected. [i] Please correct me. [/i]
Quote:Originally posted by samirosenjacken:
[b]"As an alternative to all-out food bans, FAN suggests establishing peanut-free or milk-free tables in the school cafeteria and a no-food-trading policy. "[/b]
Yes. We've "done" the PF table where *my* DD sat in isolation segregated from her peers. Often alone. Often with one other "disabled" child. We had quite a battle with the school because they would not [i]allow [/i] her to sit at the regular table. They were "following the FAAN".
Quote:As Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b]maybe they need to get someone who is an "expert" in Special Education Law on their team of advisors?[/b]
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
There are a lot of things FAAN does right ... I have benefitted from them, for which I am grateful. Those great things should be recognized and I'll elbow anyone to be the first in line to do that too. I am comfortable voicing my praises for the things I think they do right, and voicing my concerns for the things that I don't think they're doing very well. One doesn't negate the other IMO.
[This message has been edited by Gail W (edited March 09, 2006).]

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 4:39am
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Quote:Originally posted by qdebbie1:
[b]At out school, The cafeteria has been forbidden to sell any peanut items. They decided to inculde may contains as part of that.
Kids can still pack it. They must use wipes immediatly and wash hands after lunch.
Whether or not kids are sensitive to those sandwiches being around was not the issue for me, I didnt want to find out, ever.
My goal in every aspect of my son's world is to reduce the risk as much as possible.
Yes we go to resturants, playgrounds but we do not go to peanut festivals or places where we know large amounts of peanut products will be found. We go to ballgames, the circus, and just about anywhere. We do not go into steakhouses with peanuts and I will no longer be able to fly usair(my latest quest, keep you eyes open...i am quite relentless). I call ahead and get arrangements for us.
Removing alternative pbj lunch reduces the amount of PB in the school. Its still there but much less of it.
Some parents of pa kids before me just didnt realize they had the option.
Tell them to stop it. Sounds like a title for a book I could write.
anyway...I think I just committed hijacking.[/b]
What is your suggestion/solution for those of us dealing with MFA? "Tell them to stop it"? All food? This is what I find difficult and what must also be difficult for FAAN to find balance as well. While I do agree that FAAN could improve I appreciate the work that they have done.
Edited to add [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Just wondering [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by 2BusyBoys (edited March 09, 2006).]

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 4:40am
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well put gail
I agree.

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2006 - 5:01am
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Quote:Originally posted by samirosenjacken:
[b] No.
and let me just add, for the record, I only have a 504 for my 2nd DD not my 1st. And I only have the 504 b/c the principal at the K center was not very accomodating and wouldn't work with us at all to help promote a safe environment for Sam. We ended up going to the superintendent's office and filing a complaint and we did a 504 to force her to comply. We only wanted the same precautions that her sister already had in place at the elementary school. Now both girls are at the same school, following the same precautions and I probably don't need the 504 anymore.
[/b]
hmm. I've always been one to think: "I shouldn't be afraid to ask for what I have been led to believe the truth..........[i]in writing[/i]."
Especially when it is [i]my right[/i] to have it so. I'm not the type to wait for the other shoe to drop either. Not saying you are, just describing myself. But hey, I don't have a 504 either. [i]I have an IEP.[/i] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
Clean, Neat, Surgical. No strings, No what if's. Responsibilities clearly defined. I've never been afraid of that, and I expect those who lead me to believe things not to be either. It's *one* of the greatest favors and gifts I can give someone. And I view those who would take offense to such as [i]highly suspect[/i]. Big Red Flag. But that's not meant as advice, that's just my own personal quirk. Neurotic even. I could be a whacko.

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