Breyers again

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Had a panic attack last night buying ice cream, read the "natural Vanilla" label and it listed eggs. Called today and it was a box screw up, there is no egg in the natural vanilla, just the french vanilla. I will still call to be sure should I buy some, but I didn't even buy it last night. Still disappointed they've changed a lot of their ice creams to include soy now.

On Jun 29, 2006

Thank you for the heads up! Breyers is the only ice cream I allow my DS to have though in all honesty, I'm really starting to look hard at investing in my own ice cream maker. One nice thing about all this mess, I really look domestic!

------------------ Mommy to Aiden 1/26/05 PA,wheat,barley,soy,egg and others yet to be discovered DS#2 is due July 15, 2006 who we hope will be AF

On Jun 29, 2006

It seems that ice cream is an often recalled item. And it's usually something you eat pretty soon after you buy it (maybe even after putting the groceries away [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]). We made the decision to buy an ice cream maker after one too many recalls and are very pleased with it. So easy to use and I'm not very domestic and don't have much time with 3 little boys. The vanilla has 4 ingredients and it takes about 25 minutes to make. I get rave reviews - have a Cuisinart.

On Jun 29, 2006

Breyer's is one of those things that we had no idea why before our allergies were diagnosed, but it was the only ice cream ds could ever eat. I've never heard of a Breyer's recall, but this situation certainly makes me think twice about label reading, what if I had found something new and "safe", not that we're that adventurous but still. It is making me re-think that's for sure. I just know I panicked that our long time staple was not safe, so if anybody gets any, call and double check the batch with the company. I wonder if I opened one if french vanilla would be inside instead of natural vanilla? Maybe I'd better go buy one and check, the color is pretty distinguishable on the French Vanilla.

On Jun 29, 2006

This NC mom agrees with "NCMom" above- we do not do commercial ice cream as we have been told by many companies that they are using shared lines with "thorough wash downs?"after nut flavors. Our cuisinart is great and our homemade flavors certainly are better than any I've had- served some for a preschool party and the kids could not get enough of it!

On Jun 29, 2006

I think I'm headed to your way of thinking, I just need a better ice cream maker than my Rival. Just too close for comfort on this labeling error.

On Jun 29, 2006

I have yet to find a safe commercial ice cream. (However, Organic Soy Delicious has a fantastic label. So, it's safe, but it's just not the same as regular ice cream.) W just got the Krups Ice Cream maker from William-Sonoma about two weeks ago, and we've been making ice cream left and right here! I can't believe how easy and wonderful it is! Plus, there's nothing like giving something new to your PA child and feeling relaxed---oh, what a feeling! However, it might be a problem that "heavy cream" has been on my grocery list every shopping trip since we got it. Hmmm...maybe it's time to make some sorbet. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

On Jun 29, 2006

We make homemade ice cream sometimes but I can't eat it much because of the fat (it gives me stomach problems not to mention it kills my diet). There's no recipe that I've found that has the low fat content of breyer's 94% fat free and still taste like ice cream. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] But we only stick with the 94% fat free vanilla.

------------------ ============== [b]~Gale~[/b]

On Jun 30, 2006

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Originally posted by Jen224: [b] However, it might be a problem that "heavy cream" has been on my grocery list every shopping trip since we got it. Hmmm...maybe it's time to make some sorbet. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img][/b]

I have the Cuisinart, and instead of using whole milk I use 1%. Instead of 2 cups heavy cream I use 1 cup heavy cream and 1 cup half & half. Not exactly diet food, but it definitely cuts the fat content without tasting like ice milk.

BTW, the last batch of coffee ice cream I made was just divine. My 15 y.o. non-PA son had a bunch of friends over and they couldn't get enough of it. High praise indeed - from non-PA folks who can eat whatever they want!

Amy

On Jun 30, 2006

...I have a Cuisinart too...love it!

I tend to make the cooked custard-style icecreams...you can get away with using lower fat milk and egg beaters...and the cooked custard-style comes out creamier and stiffer than the non-cooked counterparts. Though...it is much more time invested.

Also --- to save on cream costs...I buy a few large bottle/containers when they are on sale, then pour 1 cup into a freezer ziploc, freeze it...then defrost it overnight in the fridge a day or so before I want to use it.

Adrienne

------------------ 30-something survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

On Jun 30, 2006

Ive used just milk in my Rival ice cream maker. It tastes pretty good. i wish i got a better maker too because the Rival just makes it too mushy, then you freeze it and it gets rock hard. i have my canister in fridge and havent made any in a while. the heavy cream is fattening and expensive!! i mite try using bryers, ben and jerrys, turkey hill, not sure. someday maybe.

On Jul 1, 2006

I think the lower fat content must do that to the consistency. When I've made the recipes with cream (I do half cream, half of it half & half, plus lower fat milk, 1 or 2%), it's soft enough to scoop later. The frozen yogurt will scoop, too, but not as easily unless you let it soften a few minutes. But the sorbets and sherbets get hard as a rock in the freezer. All of it comes out very soft from the Cuisinart, like soft-serve or sometimes even meltier. So it is good to freeze it all for at least a little while after you make it. So I'm just suspecting that making it with only milk and no cream is causing the hard freezing.

On Jul 1, 2006

i usually make it per recipe, heavy cream, half and half and milk. i only make it with just milk when im out of everything else. i still think it always freezes up too hard in fridge.

On Jul 1, 2006

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Originally posted by tidina: [b]Ive used just milk in my Rival ice cream maker. It tastes pretty good. i wish i got a better maker too because the Rival just makes it too mushy, then you freeze it and it gets rock hard. i have my canister in fridge and havent made any in a while. the heavy cream is fattening and expensive!! i mite try using bryers, ben and jerrys, turkey hill, not sure. someday maybe. [/b]

hi tidina,

I don't think it's the icecream maker...it's b/c you are using just milk and not putting in any cream.

The more heavy cream used...the more solid the "soft serve" is right out of the machine, and also, the softer it is when packed and put in the freezer.

The less heavy cream and more straight milk (even whole) that is used, makes extremely soft and easily melty soft serve straight out of the machine, and the more rock hard it gets as it sits in the freezer.

For those non-EA, using recipes that call for egg (and using pasteurized whole eggs or eggbeaters) makes it more creamy and slightly softer (more easily scoopable) when packed in the freezer.

Edited to add: I just read your other post about it being too hard when you do use cream. It may be your freezer --- if it's set to be more cold, then things do get hard frozen...as suggested above, let the icecream sit out for about 5 minutes on the counter before scooping.

It may also make a difference if you use skim, 1%, 2%, or whole milk, even in the heavy cream recipe. Skim milk tends to make rock hard icecream, no matter what. I use 1% or 2% when making icecream...

Adrienne

------------------ 30-something survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

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On Jul 2, 2006

i do use cream, half and half in it. i only use just milk sometimes. its still too hard from freezer. what do you store yours in?

On Jul 2, 2006

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Originally posted by tidina: [b]i do use cream, half and half in it. i only use just milk sometimes. its still too hard from freezer. what do you store yours in?[/b]

hi again - my best guess is that your freezer is set too cold. That will make things very hard. Is your store bought icecream too hard too?

How long are you letting it freeze in the machine? It's usually about 20-25 minutes, and should be slightly softer than soft serve. I wonder if there isn't enough air in it (as in...not in the machine long enough) then it may freeze too hard in your freezer.

For storing my icecream, I bought some heavy duty rubbermaid 2 quart round containers. Immediately, I put all the icecream in the container, then cover with a round of wax paper so it sits on the icecream. Then put the container lid on. The wax paper helps to keep ice crystals out. I only keep the homemade icecream in the freezer for about a week. Otherwise it gets all nasty.

Adrienne

------------------ 30-something survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

On Aug 4, 2006

From what I understand, Breyer's ice cream is one of the safest even though they do not have dedicated lines. I've read on this site and on the Breyer's site that they are allergen aware and wash their machines down, etc.

My peanut/tree nut allergic son had a reaction in a supermarket after pushing the cart. We were blaming his reaction on peanut protein on the shopping cart, which we still believe was the case.

About an hour before going to the supermarket, he ate some Breyer's vanilla fudge brownie ice cream. I'm wondering if the reaction was possible from that ice cream or from the shopping cart. The word "brownie" makes me nervous!

Any input from anyone?

On Aug 4, 2006

In the case of my daughter I can usually tell it was a contact reaction because the reaction will start on her arms, or some other area of exposed skin like when she sat on a kiddie chair in shorts in a doctor's waiting room. She has had hives from shopping carts a few times.

If she is having a systemic reaction, her hives usually start on her torso (once on her neck). She has never eaten Breyer's Vanilla Fudge Brownie. She has had Breyer's Vanilla and Breyer's Lactose-free Vanilla without a problem.

I hope this helps. Many times a reaction is just a mystery.

Cathy

------------------ Mom to 7 yr old PA/TNA daughter and 3 1/2 yr old son who is allergic to eggs.

On Aug 4, 2006

havent used breyers since my son was eating it and said his tongue felt funny. who knows what it was. i have ice cream maker but im thinking of trying ice cream from stores again soon. i usually wipe the cart handle, seat and all around the sides cuz my son likes to hang on to the back. sometimes i dont though. as far as my hard ice cream post, i store it in a good rubbermaid or container like that. i make the ice cream for about half an hour. and no my store bought ice cream isnt too hard.

On Aug 4, 2006

Thank you for your input Cathy. It did help. My son didn't have any hives during his last reaction. He just said "Mom I think I'm having a reaction". He had chest tightness and felt as his throat was closing. He says now that he remembers touching his eyes in the store. How he remembers that, I don't know. Maybe he reacted right after doing that. We'll never know!

Tidina, thank you for the advice of washing the handle of the shopping cart. I probably should have been doing that anyway with all the germs that are on those carts. My son won't even go in the store now. It just happened almost 2 weeks ago, so I'm sure he'll be ready to go in again soon.

The container for the ice cream is a great idea too.

On Aug 5, 2006

I dont know what we'd do, for dairy ice cream, if Caitlin outgrows milk.

Id like to say we'd do the same as ann:

Eat whatever ice cream she wants, as long as the ingred label doesnt SAY nuts.

But I dont know if we will... ever.

Jason

------------------ [b]* Obsessed * [/b]

On Aug 5, 2006

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Originally posted by sacena: [b] My son didn't have any hives during his last reaction. He just said "Mom I think I'm having a reaction". He had chest tightness and felt as his throat was closing. He says now that he remembers touching his eyes in the store. How he remembers that, I don't know. [/b]

Of course, you should always take your son seriously when he tells you of any symptoms. I will tell you though, that my daughter has anxiety in the store when we walk past bags of peanuts. I don't discourage this feeling in her, but sometimes she feels itchy just from the anxiety. It can be hard for me to tell whether her itching is from anxiety or an actual reaction.

Cathy

On Aug 5, 2006

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Originally posted by Momcat: [b]I will tell you though, that my daughter has anxiety in the store when we walk past bags of peanuts. I don't discourage this feeling in her, but sometimes she feels itchy just from the anxiety. [/b]

Unfortunately I do this too. And it's only recently since I've been coming to this site, I guess it's just stuck the allergy on my mind way more than it used to be.

But thinking about peanuts gets me itchy. If I touch a library book or something, my face starts to tingle. It's completely psychosomatic because I don't have contact or airborne reactions, I pay attention to NOT touch my face, and my face doesn't even turn red. Even now as I'm typing about it, my face is tingling, and I haven't eaten anything or been outside my home which is entirely safe for hours.

On Aug 5, 2006

This also happens to me. I have had 3 reactions to medications (2 at 12 and one at 25)- two were severe and whenever taking a new medication and lately since my daughters diagnosis with PA even taking medications I always take even benadryl I get itchy and I feel like my throat is closing up. For me an anxiety attack can feel like I'm experiencing a reaction until I calm myself down and realize that I'm not.

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