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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2003 - 12:28pm
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So yesterday was my 5th reaction in 15 months (peanut, tree nut, sesame seed and chick pea allergic). It was from an artisan bakery (which I'm sure makes other breads with nuts). But I have had this same bread for a few years now without problems until yesterday. The reaction was at breakfast time in my own house (which is generally free of everything I'm allergic to).
I'm struggling with a new comfort zone. I have given up chinese food, many other ethnic cuisines, ice cream parlors and limit desserts outside the home. I don't eat at work potlucks. I do enjoy good quality breads. As a working mother with two small boys, I don't have time to bake my own all of the time. And where do you stop- many pizza restaurants have some sort of pesto topping, most restaurants have nuts or sesame seeds, etc. It seems like cross contamination is almost always a potential hazard if you worry enough. Other reactions were to ?bouillabaise (probably cross contamination in a restaurant that had a "special system" for people with food allergies), breadcrumbs in a casserole (family member prepared and "checked"), catered event (after lengthy discussions with caterer and extensive efforts on their part), pesto (after specifically inquiring about pesto, pinenuts, walnuts etc; after reaction, took 5 times of questioning the chef for him to recall what was in his dish), and the bread.
I don't know what to do about catered events and bread. We buy other breads that though they are not labelled as "made in a facility..." most likely are. I have not had any problems with them over a period of years.
I apologize for the long post. I'm still on steroids and feeling a bit moody.

[This message has been edited by erl (edited November 22, 2003).]

Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2003 - 1:22pm
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I'm so sorry to hear about all your reactions - yesterday's especially. Don't apolgize for the length of the post (it certainly isn't too long!). I hope it helps some to get your frustrations written out. Have you always been allergic or is this adult onset? Please take care.

Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2003 - 10:47pm
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I am sorry to hear about your reaction. I am dealing with the exact same problem.
I really do not have a good idea on what my comfort zone should be. Right now I am just starting to loosen up my zone. I find that as an adult I have a lot more trouble with the TNA then the PA. It seems people get the PA, but not the TNA. I am also finding that TN's are in a lot more dishes at restaurants, especially salads.
I know this does not help, but I gave up wheat, and will now only eat rice based dishes. Since then I have not had an allergy attack, and I feel a lot more healthy. (less overall environmental allergies)

Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2003 - 12:01am
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Prior to finding out about *trace amounts* being a real threat, I was having reactions daily.
All the breads that I was eating ran on the same lines as sesame seeds. I now make my own bread, buns, pizza dough, bagels, etc.
In the last 15 years I've only eaten in one restaurant, and I don't buy very much pre-packaged food. (This last is very unfortunate, because though I'm good at baking, I'm not such a good cook [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/redface.gif[/img] )
ERL, do you have a breadmachine? Load it up, push a few buttons and just wait for the beep. As there are no preservatives, the bread doesn't last as long as store-bought - but that's what freezers are for. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
btw, fancier breads are more likely to have been in contact with nuts and seeds.
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I'm not trying to say you should do what I've been forced to do - just offering suggestions which you are free to take or ignore. And wishing you the best of luck whatever you do.

Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2003 - 12:03am
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Quote:Originally posted by ANTHRCDN:
[b] but I gave up wheat, and will now only eat rice based dishes. Since then I have not had an allergy attack, and I feel a lot more healthy. (less overall environmental allergies)
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I recall you posting pa/tna. Did you give up wheat because it was causing problems, or because of cross-contamination reactions?

Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2003 - 2:57am
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Hi,
I have tested negative for wheat, but most of reactions involved a P/TN in some type of wheat based product.(i.e. cake, bread, cookie)
I was also finding that when I ate wheat, I would get very tired and sluggish. I always thought it was because of all the chemicals in the over-processed wheat. Perhaps it was because of cross contamination.
For dessert, I now consume a lot of Kozy Shack puddings.... lol...

Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2003 - 7:13am
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Thanks for your support and ideas. I spoke with the company today and educated them about food allergy and proper labelling of their products. I'm not sure I'm ready to give up altogether on store bought bread. I'll try baking some with my Kitchen Aid for now. We just sold our bread machine because we really didn't use it much. I'm going only to restaurants I've eaten at before. I may give up on catered events or just ask for a fruit plate. I have had all of my allergies since early childhood except for chick pea which developed ?teenage.

Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2003 - 12:28pm
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erl-so sorry about your reaction. My son has the same allergies as you plus some fruits and penicillin. He has never had sesame, but tested postive on RAST, same for chickpeas, lentils, peas, and a variety of other foods.
He has eaten Pepperidge Farm breads safely for several years. They seem to label well for peanuts/nuts and for sesame. My son is picky and only eats the Canadian White and the Cinnamon Swirl, but has tried a few other kinds. There hot dog rolls have been ok for us too, but the hamburger rolls list sesame on the label, but there are no seeds visible, so I suspect there may some crosscontamination. May be worth calling Pepperidge Farm about how they label for sesame cross contamination in general. I am worried about sesame cross contamination, but not as obsessive about it as I am with peanut/tree nuts because we have never had a sesame reaction.
I realize that it is not the same as some of the yummy breads you may have been eating...but thought I would mention it as a possibility for you to check out since Pepperidge Farm makes a wide variety of breads. I haven't checked them all out. If I call them again soon, I will post their response regarding sesame cross contamination.

Posted on: Wed, 11/19/2003 - 5:00am
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Me again. 6 days later, last night I had a signifigant airborn/contact reaction. I was at a phone a thon in a board room. I did not eat anything there except a sip of water from a new bottle. There were plain M&Ms which I had them remove, just being careful/paranoid I thought. After 15 minutes or so, I began to feel flushing in my neck and throat. I began to have my repetitive cough. I couldn't believe I was really reacting. I called my husband. And silly me drove myself to an ER 3 minutes away. I gave myself epi while talking to the triage nurse, not wanting to wait another 5 minutes for the paperwork. It got worse until after the other IV meds. I called this morning and found out that they had chinese chicken salad a couple of days ago in that room and that they frequently snack on nuts, peanuts, candy etc. I'm still a bit stunned and drugged (antihistamine, steroids).

Posted on: Thu, 02/12/2004 - 10:47am
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erl, I'm just writing to give you a big hug and let you know that I'm thinking about you. You have been through some rough times. Take care of yourself and I hope you feel better.

Posted on: Fri, 02/13/2004 - 6:12am
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thanks for your hug. After the November reactions (3 in total), I haven't had epi for almost 3 months. I have used Benadryl several times for airborn reactions and it seems to have worked. I'm getting used to being very conscious/vigilant of where I am and what food is around me. And I ordered some Vermont nut free chocolate...

Posted on: Fri, 05/07/2004 - 5:31am
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Well, made it 5 1/2 months without anaphylaxis. Had a reaction last night, not sure if contamination or airborn or mystery. (Details on edamame post under reactions). I don't really have any additional insight into prevention at this time.
But I will not drive myself even short distances while reacting again. The reaction seemed mild but got much worse once I was in the car. I made it home a few minutes away but it was not a good ride. I haven't called 911 before. I usually give my own epi and then have someone take me to the ER. But I may use 911 in the future. There was some delay (10 minutes) just in getting someone to watch the kids and then have my husband take me to the ER. I needed a 2nd epi, not sure if that could have been avoided.

Posted on: Sat, 05/08/2004 - 1:40am
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I'm so sorry you just went through this again. Yes [b]PLEASE[/b] use 911 if (heaven forbid) you have another anaphylactic reaction!! Take care.
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Posted on: Thu, 06/10/2004 - 3:19pm
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We use Rudi's Organic Breads - nut free.

Posted on: Fri, 06/11/2004 - 10:08am
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Please help!!!!!!
I called Arnold and found they suggest that we not use there product, it is the weekend and I have no bread and can't call companies! Thanx

Posted on: Fri, 06/11/2004 - 10:45am
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Can't help. We got a bread machine.

Posted on: Fri, 06/11/2004 - 12:11pm
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We use Pepperidge Farm breads. They label allergens. Even sesame. My son eats the Canadian White bread all the time. He doesn't care for wheat bread, but I have bought it on occasion.

Posted on: Fri, 06/11/2004 - 10:40pm
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If you have a Whole Foods or Mother's Market near you maybe they carry the Rudi's Organic line. They have hot dog and hamburger buns, wheat bread, white bread, sourdough bread, honey wheat, low carb, and a lot more. It is really good bread. Both dd and I are PA/TNA and haven't had a problem. They are also a peanut/tree nut facility and don't use eggs or dyes.

Posted on: Sat, 06/12/2004 - 1:12am
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Thanx for the help, I really appreciate it. Polly

Posted on: Sat, 06/12/2004 - 3:47am
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I heard that Peppridge Farms stopped labelling for sesame (USA, anyway), in case you are avoiding them as well.

Posted on: Sat, 06/12/2004 - 11:47am
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Does anyone know if Rudi's has a nut free, dairy free and egg free bread? that would be GRRRREAT!!!

Posted on: Sun, 06/13/2004 - 2:04pm
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I would read the labels but the breads that we buy from them hot dog buns, hamburger buns, sourdough bread, wheat bread, white bread are all nut free, dairy free and egg free. We have eaten these breads for the last few months on a daily basis and love them...

Posted on: Sun, 04/18/2004 - 11:18am
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If there's no time to bake, we use Maier's (I think that's the spelling). I've called, got a good response, and we've never had a problem with their bread. Very delicious too.

Posted on: Sun, 04/18/2004 - 1:02pm
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I called Rudi's a few months ago and was told they are peanut/nut-free. We've been using their products ever since - the honey-whole wheat bread variety is wonderful and high in fiber and protein. We use their buns, too. Only drawback is the price . . . but you pay more for organic and sometimes for safety, I guess.

Posted on: Thu, 09/06/2007 - 1:09pm
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When we were in Calif on vacation we bought Wonder bread. I had called in advance to ask which plant numbers were safe.
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Posted on: Thu, 09/06/2007 - 4:16pm
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We discovered Alvarado Street Bakery products last year, and DS eats their sprouted wheat bread, as well as their bagels...
[url="http://www.alvaradostreetbakery.com/index.html"]http://www.alvaradostreetbakery.com/index.html[/url]
Under FAQ's, it states that they never use Peanuts or Tree Nuts in their bakery.
[url="http://www.alvaradostreetbakery.com/faq_asb.html#4"]http://www.alvaradostreetbakery.com/faq_asb.html#4[/url]
This product is available in Northern CA at Whole Foods and Andronico's. You can also order over the web...in case you can't find it in Southern CA.

Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2007 - 12:38pm
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I am PA only, and eat a whole grain bread made by Aunt Hatties. I live in Arizona, so it may be available to you in California. I called about cross-contamination risks for peanut, but I don't know how they are for sesame, etc.
I just checked the label on a package of Aunt Hattie's SEDONA ALL NATURAL 9 GRAIN. The ingredients are:
unbleached enriched wheat flour (wheat flour, barley malt niacin, ferrous sulfate (iron) thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin (folic acid) water, Whole wheat flour, rye, wheat bran, fresh yeast, light amber honey, wheat gluten,
granulated sugar, soybean soil, brown sugar, molasses, oats, barley, sea salt, raisin juice concentrate, cultured corn syrup solids, vinegar, calcuim sulfate. The only ingredient in BOLD for allergy alert is WHEAT.
The bread is made by Holsum Bakery of Phoenix. Phone is 888 246-5786.
They have different breads - some have sesame and sunflower seeds, but I usually stick with the basic 9-grain SEDONA bread. Ironic - as I live in Sedona.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2007 - 3:06pm
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I have always ate just white bread and bagels. I discovered through here

Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2007 - 9:52pm
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Here we're able to get safe Wonder wheat breads...any Interstate brand you can call and learn if it's safe within minutes.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/25/2007 - 11:04pm
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peppridge farm has a wheat bread

Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2007 - 1:52am
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We do not eat any bought bread - I have not found any that is safe for a sesame allergy.
We bake all of our own, and we do all kinds.
I don't think I would ever go back to purchasing all our bread, even if my DD outgrows her allergy. Although it would be good to have that option.

Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2007 - 1:16pm
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Ds is sesame allergic, he eats several kinds of Pepperidge Farms breads including wheat. I never called them, but I have seem other bread products of theirs labelled for "may contain sesame", so they do label for it - I just go by the labels.

Posted on: Thu, 09/02/2010 - 8:48am
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We usually buy Sara Lee brand breads and buns. My daughter has a severe peanut allergy and she has never had a problem with them. You should always check the labels, though. You never know when they could change their ingredients.

Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 1:38am
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Last night I ate a french roll made by Franz and it didn't list any nut or peanut ingredients nor did it say made on the same equipment and my lips started itching, had problems breathing then got itchy everywhere else. Plus a runny nose. So there was something in that bread. I will have to try Sara lee. Thanks!!

Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 11:50am
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I've never heard of Franz before. That's kind of scary to think there were no allergens listed and you had a reaction.
Sara Lee lists allergens so make sure to check the label. We check it every time we buy it and my daughter has never had a problem eating their bread, buns, etc.

Posted on: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:20am
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I call all the companies before I feed my daughters anything. Natures Pride Bread is made in a peanut and nut free facility if the code by the expiration date starts with a 55.
also their hamburger buns are okay but coconut is in that facility.
if you are looking for cereal I use Earths Best instant oatmeal, Cascadian Farm cereals are clearly marked if they are processed with peanuts or nuts. Also my kids like Perky's Crunchy Rice Cereal by Enjoy Life. all their products are peanut and nut free. I don't recommend the bread they make because it molds easily.
Another product you might like is wild harvest which is found in the organic section at Cub's grocery store. most of their products are safe. I call each time I buy a new product.

Posted on: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 4:05am
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We buy Sara Lee too. BUT we also buy Wonder Bread and Buns...but watch these labels because I believe they are going to change the palnts where they make this bread. We also buy BEST CHOICE bread from time to time. Always check each ingredient list.

Posted on: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 1:30pm
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We also have wonder from time to time. Since they are changing the plant where they are made, are they now going to be manufactured in the same facility as peanuts?

Posted on: Fri, 09/24/2010 - 7:24am
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Thanks for posting about Wonder. I always buy their bread, but ran into a problem this week when I got a batch from a "mystery plant." They had no idea where it was manufactured, and my daughter got hives after eating it. I'll have to call again and verify that plant 75 is still the safe plant for our area ....
I have also used Sarah Lee, as they label well. Just be sure to read the label every time!

Posted on: Wed, 03/23/2011 - 2:14am
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I personally like Sunbeam Bread, Aunt Millies, and Natural Ovens Bakery bread. Natural Ovens is peanut free- in fact, they don't allow peanuts in the candy machines in the employee area, and forbid employees from bringing peanut products in their lunches.
I now have confirmation for Aunt Millies.
"Thank you for contacting Aunt Millie's Bakeries. We have one product that has nuts this would be our Aunt Millie's Honey and Crunchy Oat Bread. This is produced in Kalamazoo. All of our other products are produced in a nut and Peanut free facility. You need to avoid any product that has a letter C. You can locate this information on the front of the product wrapper by the twist tie. For example, the information will look like this $3.59 C12345678
Best By Date 1/1/11
All of our other products will be fine.
Tracy Stevens
Customer Service Representative, Aunt Millie's Bakeries
1 800-995-8245 X 276"

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Schwebel! That's the other brand I use that is also nut-free. The name slipped my mind. I believe they do hotdog and hamburger buns as well.

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