Benedryl if they vomit?

Posted on: Sun, 07/11/1999 - 12:49am
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My son vomits, usually within 10-15 min. after ingesting anything containing peanut. This has been our 1st warning that something is wrong if we don't see him eat it or he doesn't tell us. Of course, after the vomiting begins, his eyes turn red & the hives appear & his throat tightens, etc. Most of you know the drill! - Anyway, my question is - I have been told by Dr. to give him 2 Tbsp. of benedryl - If he usually throws up with 10-15 min - will the benedryl do what is should - or should I skip the benedryl step & go right to the epipen. I would use the epi immediately if I knew he had eaten a peanut - but, sometimes in the past, a peanut butter cookie has merely brought vomiting & glassey eyes. What do you all do? SM/ [img]http://client.ibboards.com/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Sun, 07/11/1999 - 12:29pm
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pHi SM,/p
pI can tell you from first hand experience that a pnt butter cookie is just as dangerous as the dread peanut itself. My son's first and only anyphylactic exposure came from eating a tiny bite of a pnt butter cookie. You can bet I will be giving the epi when I notice the vomiting and hives whether I believe he has had pnts or not. My son also sneezed and had the tightening in the throat during his episode./p
pI have been told not to hesitate to give the epi if you suspect an exposure./p
pGood luck and Stay Safe, Deb/p

Posted on: Sun, 07/11/1999 - 1:59pm
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pHi SM! My daughter's reactions always start with vomiting, too. And like you, I wonder how much, if any, of the Benadryl is actually still in her doing its job. Her allergist told us to give her the epi-pen even if we just suspect she is having a reaction; and that getting epinephrine when she doesn't need it shouldn't hurt her, while needing it and not getting it could kill her. After we give her the shot and head for the ER, I make sure and tell them how much Benadryl I gave her, when I gave it, and how soon she vomited after that. They usually end up giving her more Benadryl or another anti-histamine anyway./p

Posted on: Mon, 07/12/1999 - 8:10am
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pSM - I agree with the peanut cookie issue. Our only reaction came from a peanut cookie and it was almost his last! Always give the epi pen and call the EMT's!/p
p------------------br /
Kelly Mbr /
Another Mom in Michigan/p

Posted on: Tue, 07/13/1999 - 1:32pm
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pHi SM:/p
pOne of my son's reactions involved persistent vomitting. I tried giving him liquid Benadryl and he could not keep it down. I did not administer the Epi-Pen but drove him to the ER (we're only 5 minutes away) and he was given an injection of Benadryl. That did the trick. /p
pI'm still somewhat on the fence about administering the Epi-Pen immediately. I'd rather save the extreme measure of using the Epi-Pen for any signs of breathing difficulties. But I have heard some good arguments for going for the Epi-Pen no matter what. But just to let you know my son did not get the Epi-Pen during a severe vomitting episode and he recovered quite quickly with only the shot of Benadryl./p
pNoreen/p

Posted on: Thu, 07/15/1999 - 11:33am
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pI was told to always give the Epi - no matter what. And I have been told by several people that each exposure gets worse, so my advice is, DO NOT WAIT for that 'extreme' circumstance. To me, waiting means death for my son, so I won't take that chance. Stay safe./p

Posted on: Thu, 07/15/1999 - 2:17pm
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pNoreen??? /p
p(I am not picking on you I just want to be sure everyone knows how important administering epinephrine quickly (Epi-Pen) is./p
pHave you heard how important it is to get epinephrine and what waiting ten minutes does to the survival statistics? I read them about a year ago and if anyone recalls where this information is please post it here. /p
pWhat did your allergist tell you Benadryl does and what epinephrine does?/p
pI would like others to post what they think each medication does so we can all discuss it and make sure everyone is clear on it./p
pHomework: List the drug(s) that may (in most cases) stop anaphylactic shock./p
p------------------br /
Stay Safe/p
p [email]"Chris@PeanutAllergy.Com"[/email]/p

Posted on: Thu, 07/15/1999 - 11:33pm
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pMy understanding is the:/p
pBenadryl is for the hives and itching.../p
pEpinephrine is to keep the airway from closing...(prevents or reduces swelling) /p
pa Steroid (Prelone) is administered to help prevent a second reaction from happening hours later./p
p[This message has been edited by Connie (edited July 16, 1999).]/p

Posted on: Fri, 07/16/1999 - 12:00am
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pAll literature I've read says that future reactions are typically (not always) similiar to previous reactions. However, the primary factors effecting severity are:/p
p1. Route of exposure (i.e. touch, ingestion)br /
2. Amount of allergenbr /
3. Other medical complications (i.e. asthma)/p
pSeveral people have posted on this site that each exposure gets worse, does anyone know of peer reviewed medical documents to support this?/p

Posted on: Fri, 07/16/1999 - 7:20am
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pThere are two major issues I am familiar with the first is that my allergist told me that if I found out that my daughter ate someting by mistake I should give the Benadryl and Epi right away--unles she was vomiting (her previous reaction)and then to just administer the Epi. The Epi works on alpha and beta systems-heart rate (speeding it up) and lung (reducing swelling increasing blood and oxygen flow)./p
pThe second thin I have learned is that regardless of what may or may not be in the literature, my daughter has gone from severe coughing after injestion to vomiting and now has actually had 2 occacions where her airway has been partially obstructed. The Benadryl did nothin the first time-I followed with an Epi in less than 5 minutes. The second time I used a diffent antiistamine, not knowing what was coming, then the nebulizer. They took a lot longer to work and I am certain if I am ever faced with situation again I will not hesitate to use the Epi to get faster more certain relief./p
pMary Lynn/p

Posted on: Fri, 07/16/1999 - 7:57am
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pMy understanding about the two different drugs, epinephrine and benadryl is that bendadryl does very little for true anaphylactic reactions where major systems are involved. Bendadryl does little to counteract the dangerous effects of respiratory and major organ failure. This is what I gathered from my allergist./p
pWhile I hate to mention anphylactic deaths, after reading the posts about the two young men who have recently had fatal anyphylactic reactions, it seems that death is not always immediate as these two young men lived several days after their exposure. Does anyone know what the main cause of death in anyphylactic reactions is? Is it true organ failure where medical personnel cannot get the organ(s) to begin responding again?br /
Sorry for this morbid curiousity, but it has been something I have been thinking about and have not had the nerve to ask./p
pStay Safe All./p

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