Are peanut butter bans needed?

Posted on: Sat, 12/09/2006 - 1:20am
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With so many young children now allergic to peanuts, it's not unusual to find that food banned in schools. But, is it necessary to forbid peanut butter?
Rockville allergist Jerry Shier says that perhaps there has been a little bit of jumping overboard during the past decade.

He distinguishes between peanuts and peanut butter.

He points out that someone shelling and eating fresh peanuts can generate enough peanut dust in the air to have an impact on someone with a peanut allergy.

On the other hand, he says, inhaling peanut butter is "really not a risk."

He says that as long as a child knows he or she is not supposed to ingest peanut butter, he doesn't see any danger in allowing a peanut-allergic child in third grade, for instance, to sit next to a student eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

But "in a preschool setting, it's probably wise" to restrict peanut butter, he says, because such young children are often touching and grabbing things from each other.

For instance, Potomac's Diane Edwards, whose children both have allergies, points out that a child could have eaten peanut butter for breakfast, put a toy in his or her mouth and then pass it to her child

Posted on: Sat, 12/09/2006 - 7:59pm
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"Not Really" a risk...hmmm, gee, I feel so much better - it's "not really" a risk to have peanut butter right next to my child.
What an idiot, sorry, but he is. If it was pasty sticky cyanide or some poison that can kill someone in minute quantities...say, there was a poison display with sticky poison, on the table right next to where his kid eats, hmmmm... could we say "oh, it's NOT REALLY a risk, quit being a freak by worrying that it's right next to your kid while she eats..."
My daughter had a reaction, the first in 4 years, two days ago. Her eyes were sore from the pool. She touched a very clean counter at our health club. She probably rubbed her eyes because they were stinging from the pool. Not long after, her eye was swelled shut, her cheek puffed out and we were treating her. She was very afraid. She is very persnickety and normally doesn't put her hands in her mouth or touch her eyes.
This was a club mostly of adults...no obvious peanuts or PB anywhwere - still she had a reaction.
This clown is saying sitting purposely right next to someone eating PB&J is not really a risk...and multiply all of those peanut butter hands by 100 kids in a cafeteria day - touching all over the school.
It's so frustrating to read this **** . Easy for him to say!

Posted on: Thu, 12/14/2006 - 6:13am
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Has he ever eaten next to a 3rd grader?? I eat next to my 2nd grader and even I walk away with food on my clothes(in the school lunchroom). Those kids are flopping and flapping arms goig every-which-way......no way! My daughter sits at the regular tables at school, but my son is at the peanut-free tables....no way could he ever handle sitting next to a peanut-butter and jelly sandwich, no way.
In all honesty, it's allergists like this that undo years of work for others. So if a parent of a non-allergy child just read that article, they would start questioning why my son had to sit seperate....it does more harm then good to print an opinion.

Posted on: Sat, 11/06/2010 - 2:57am
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Yes...I would agree with this guy... if children were as smart as this guy...which they're not. So I don't. I'm in middle school...and I can tell that children my age either don't understand, or understand and use it against me, and it's scary. I think it would be the smart thing to do. It's just not realistic, though...Since people aren't smart. =/

Posted on: Sat, 11/06/2010 - 7:36am
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The idea of homeschooling is becoming more and more appealing to me. Seriously. This allergist spoke too soon, IMO. It may be safe for some kids, but others (like the girl who got some peanut protein on her hands without realizing it and rubbed her eyes) wouldn't be okay.
Our school district isn't allowed to ban peanut products from the school, but when the school district considered providing little peanut butter and jelly sandwiches in the lunch room, the school nurses got all over them and managed to change their minds.

Posted on: Tue, 02/01/2011 - 7:51am
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ok, this may seem silly to some of y'all, but i'm really just trying to get my bearings on how protective to be, how protective is overprotective, and so forth...
13 mo dd was just diagnosed with class 4 PA. Her pediatrician, who already thinks i'm a little overprotective, laughed at me when i asked if 'while in a hotel room (which we are several times a year)dd could be playing on the floor where a messy child had eaten a pb & j and be exposed to some old peanut butter.' she didn't think this was likely, and i was really just using it as an example. but seriously, i am trying to figure out how close is too close. does that mean me and my hubs can no longer bring our favorite thai food home and eat it due to risk of exposing the baby to what is on our lips? is the risk primarily if the child consumes peanut, or what about the second hand exposure, say on lips?

Posted on: Tue, 02/08/2011 - 8:13am
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My daughter has had a reaction after going into a house where her cousin had just finished a peanut butter jelly sandwich. At our house we don't eat anything with Peanuts.

Posted on: Tue, 02/08/2011 - 10:19pm
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Don't know what class 4 is. My son's allergy is severe... His first and only reaction at 9 months. Almost three now. He reacted to oil on his brother's hand which had been cleaned with a wipe after eating bbq chips fried in 30% peanut oil.. Bad reation in twenty minutes... Second exposure is suppose to be worse.. I don't want to have one... I would say try to over caution is the best.. It has worked for us... We still go to playgroup, library and on outings.. I check out allergy friendly situation prior to going everywhere possible though..

Posted on: Sat, 12/09/2006 - 7:59pm
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"Not Really" a risk...hmmm, gee, I feel so much better - it's "not really" a risk to have peanut butter right next to my child.
What an idiot, sorry, but he is. If it was pasty sticky cyanide or some poison that can kill someone in minute quantities...say, there was a poison display with sticky poison, on the table right next to where his kid eats, hmmmm... could we say "oh, it's NOT REALLY a risk, quit being a freak by worrying that it's right next to your kid while she eats..."
My daughter had a reaction, the first in 4 years, two days ago. Her eyes were sore from the pool. She touched a very clean counter at our health club. She probably rubbed her eyes because they were stinging from the pool. Not long after, her eye was swelled shut, her cheek puffed out and we were treating her. She was very afraid. She is very persnickety and normally doesn't put her hands in her mouth or touch her eyes.
This was a club mostly of adults...no obvious peanuts or PB anywhwere - still she had a reaction.
This clown is saying sitting purposely right next to someone eating PB&J is not really a risk...and multiply all of those peanut butter hands by 100 kids in a cafeteria day - touching all over the school.
It's so frustrating to read this **** . Easy for him to say!

Posted on: Thu, 12/14/2006 - 6:13am
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Has he ever eaten next to a 3rd grader?? I eat next to my 2nd grader and even I walk away with food on my clothes(in the school lunchroom). Those kids are flopping and flapping arms goig every-which-way......no way! My daughter sits at the regular tables at school, but my son is at the peanut-free tables....no way could he ever handle sitting next to a peanut-butter and jelly sandwich, no way.
In all honesty, it's allergists like this that undo years of work for others. So if a parent of a non-allergy child just read that article, they would start questioning why my son had to sit seperate....it does more harm then good to print an opinion.

Posted on: Sat, 11/06/2010 - 2:57am
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Yes...I would agree with this guy... if children were as smart as this guy...which they're not. So I don't. I'm in middle school...and I can tell that children my age either don't understand, or understand and use it against me, and it's scary. I think it would be the smart thing to do. It's just not realistic, though...Since people aren't smart. =/

Posted on: Sat, 11/06/2010 - 7:36am
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The idea of homeschooling is becoming more and more appealing to me. Seriously. This allergist spoke too soon, IMO. It may be safe for some kids, but others (like the girl who got some peanut protein on her hands without realizing it and rubbed her eyes) wouldn't be okay.
Our school district isn't allowed to ban peanut products from the school, but when the school district considered providing little peanut butter and jelly sandwiches in the lunch room, the school nurses got all over them and managed to change their minds.

Posted on: Tue, 02/01/2011 - 7:51am
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ok, this may seem silly to some of y'all, but i'm really just trying to get my bearings on how protective to be, how protective is overprotective, and so forth...
13 mo dd was just diagnosed with class 4 PA. Her pediatrician, who already thinks i'm a little overprotective, laughed at me when i asked if 'while in a hotel room (which we are several times a year)dd could be playing on the floor where a messy child had eaten a pb & j and be exposed to some old peanut butter.' she didn't think this was likely, and i was really just using it as an example. but seriously, i am trying to figure out how close is too close. does that mean me and my hubs can no longer bring our favorite thai food home and eat it due to risk of exposing the baby to what is on our lips? is the risk primarily if the child consumes peanut, or what about the second hand exposure, say on lips?

Posted on: Tue, 02/08/2011 - 8:13am
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My daughter has had a reaction after going into a house where her cousin had just finished a peanut butter jelly sandwich. At our house we don't eat anything with Peanuts.

Posted on: Tue, 02/08/2011 - 10:19pm
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Don't know what class 4 is. My son's allergy is severe... His first and only reaction at 9 months. Almost three now. He reacted to oil on his brother's hand which had been cleaned with a wipe after eating bbq chips fried in 30% peanut oil.. Bad reation in twenty minutes... Second exposure is suppose to be worse.. I don't want to have one... I would say try to over caution is the best.. It has worked for us... We still go to playgroup, library and on outings.. I check out allergy friendly situation prior to going everywhere possible though..

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