My 2 year old son is allergic to all of the above(and soy also). He is an extremely picky eater and was never interested in cake until he went to a birthday party last week and I didn't let him eat the cake. Now he keeps talking about cake. I tried a recipe from a gluten free cookbook that was pn, dairy, wheat free. I used egg replacers for the eggs that were required, but it didn't work, horrible. I really want to make my kid a cake. Anyone else with these allergy challenges? What do you feed your child? My child is so thin, I am always looking for something else I can give him that he will eat. ihatepeanuts-i just printed your applesauce drop cookies recipe and will try that.
On Apr 19, 2001
Nonutshere -- You may want to try checking out a vegan (not vegetarian) cookbook. Those recipes, as they are never meant to have eggs in them, may provide you with a higher chance of success in the first place. I just bought two cookbooks recently, and will be happy to keep you up to date with any new favorites!
Check also under the "Snacks and Recipes" section here, as there are two in particular that come to my mind -- one is a "wacky cake", a chocolate cake that uses vinegar. I have had (a variation of it, made by a friend) and it was outstanding. I imagine you would probably use rice flour, and I don't know how that might change it -- but certainly worth trying. The other recipe was for an eggless cake that seemed to get good reviews.
Hang in there -- with both soy and dairy in the mix, you have a challenge. It's doable, but you will have the self-taught equivalent of a degree in chemistry by the time your son heads to college!
Our son is allergic to peanuts, tree nuts, and eggs -- and has some trouble with dairy. We do have soy to fall back on, which helps our situation considerably.
What kind of foods *does* your son enjoy? I'll be happy to brainstorm with you -- and check for any recipes I already have that might be helpful.
I'll check back this evening, and tomorrow.
On Apr 20, 2001
I did find the thread with Wackie cake and a FAAN recipe and printed them out. I will try one. Unfortuneately you can't simply substitute rice flour for wheat flour. It has something to do with gluten which is in wheat flour, but not other flours. You have to substitute a few different flours, and that doesn't necessarily work either. I have attempted probably 10 loaves of wheat free bread that turned out either hard as a rock or fell apart. I finally ordered a wheat-free bread mix that did turn out well. My son however took one bite and wouldn't eat anymore. The wheat free mixes I found are really for gluten intolerant people, (which my sone is not), not allergic people. Most contain dairy and/or eggs. I will try one or both of the above because maybe it will be easier to substitute for the flour than substitute for the eggs. What does my son eat? French fries, wheat-free pasta, rice pudding, wheat-free pretzels, corn chips, guacamole(isn't that odd?-only my homemade), cereal, baby food meat(because he refuses to eat solid meat), ocassionally rotisserie chicken(no other kind), rice milk and apple juice. I'm serious, that's it. No hotdogs, no hamburgers, no chicken nuggets. He used to eat a few fruits and veggies, but soon after turning 2, those were banned also. My husband and I eat a wide variety of food including many types of fruits and vegetables. I don't know how he got so picky. His pickiness coupled with his inability to eat many foods makes things difficult.
On Apr 20, 2001
Hi -- this'll almost certainly be a partial post, as my 3 year old son is playing right next to me during what is *usually* his naptime!
...One thing I can send your way, if you'd like is a recipe for a homemade rotisserie-like chicken. It's slow roasted in the oven -- no special equipment required! My husband and son are hooked on it. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
...Matt (my son) has taken to sweet potato fries quite happily. The brand we buy uses soy oil, so it would be another do-it-yourself project, but they are very good -- and, hey -- it's a French fry!
...What fats are you able to use? Is there a margarine that is soy free? One of the corn oil based ones, perhaps? We have a potato leek soup that is easy, and passed the Matt test.
...refried beans with salsa, rolled up on a corn tortilla. (We use whole wheat -- but again -- the *concept* passed the M test.)
...mashed potatoes -- with whatever fat you can add.
...oatmeal, sweetened, made with rice milk.
...tapioca, made with rice milk.
...raisins, or "red raisins" (dried cranberries) dates, and homemade pumpkin seeds. (commercial ones apparently run the risk of cross-contamination with nuts.)
...fruit smoothies -- orange juice (the added calcium kind is a plus), banana, and some sort of "red" berry -- strawberries produce the best result, I think, but raspberries are good, too -- just run it through a strainer to catch the little seeds! Freezing the banana first makes the whole thing nice and creamy, like a milkshake.
...Matt also drinks *orange-carrot juice* by the bucket! Not a taste he acquired from us -- but one we sure encourage.
...Matt seems to enjoy things that have a bit of spice to them -- gingersnaps, and a rather spicy zucchini bread I make (egg and dairy free -- uses OJ for the liquid -- tastes a lot like gingerbread, I think.)
I'll pick up on this again later. Let me know if you'd like any of the recipes so far.
Some of the pickiness may just be a part of the fun of having a two-year old. Matt went from being a very easy feeder as a baby, to being a *picky* two year old, to being a very enthusiastic eater (though still pretty iffy about vegetables!) as a three year old.
We just keep eating what we eat, and every so often he will ask to try something -- and usually ends up liking it.
Matt has been waiting patiently for me to finish this -- so I'll end here, while I can "catch him doing something good". [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Hope that helps -- I'll keep an eye open for the thread.
On Apr 24, 2001
To M'smom: I was wondering if you could post your no-egg zucchini bread recipe. I would like to try it. Thanks! Tracy
On Apr 24, 2001
Hi nonutshere: Were you able to try the applesause drop cookies? My son loves them...in fact we all do. I don't have much time to post right now but I will search through my allergy cookbooks and my FAN recipes and see what cake I can come up with. I know how challenging multiple food allergies are. It really helped out a lot when my son "outgrew" the wheat allergy. Hope the same happens to your son. I will try to get back here soon.... hopefully with a recipe for you to try. Take Care! Tracy
On Apr 24, 2001
My son is also allgeric to peanuts, wheat, eggs, and corn. I tried the wacky cake recipe, i forgot where i got it from, i do have it at home i will look for it with barley flour and it wasnt that bad. You can also make your own frosting, its hard for me to make frosting because my son is allergic to corn and confectionary suger contains corn.
I will go home and look for some recipes that i have for cakes and cookies and see if i can send them to youl.
On Apr 24, 2001
Tracy-- I'll be glad to post it -- probably tomorrow during naptime! It's a recipe I adapted from the Pillsbury baking book, using the Ener-G egg replacer.
CarsonsMom -- Did you know that you can "blenderize" regular sugar to make your own confectioner's sugar? It takes a little patience, but it works well. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] It does *not* work at all if you use a food processor, however!
Off to replace epi's that got left out in the cold... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
On Apr 24, 2001
THANK YOU M'SMOM, I HAD NO IDEA THAT YOU COULD DO THAT. SHOULD I BLEND IT ON HIGH AND FOR HOW LONG DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO IT FOR? HAVE YOU DONE IT BEFORE? THAT WOULD BE GREAT, I CAN FINALLY MAKE SOME FROSTING FOR A CAKE.
On Apr 25, 2001
M'sMom- I tried the FAAN cake. It came out well, not as hard as a rock, but kind of like a gritty brownie consistency. He was excited to have cake, but after one small piece he didn't want any more. I didn't blame him. It wasn't that good. I'm sure the original recipe is good, but the substitutions for the wheat flour just didn't work well. thank you for that great list! Funny, Max was not a picky eater as a baby either. He ate all kinds of baby food and almost anything I ground up for him. I hope he is like your son and goes back to being a good eater. I bought a fry daddy a while ago so I could make homemade french fries. I tried making sweet potato fries because I know sweet potatos are so much more nutritious, but my son just looked at them and said he did not want "those kind" of french fries. I tried serving him a mix of regular and sweet potato fries, but he ate every white fry and left every sweet potato fry on his plate. I, however thought they were great. I use olive oil for frying and canola oil for baking. I have never found a margarine that contained no dairy or soy. He can tolerate a small amount of soy, so I use a dairy-free soy margarine. He really doesn't eat much margarine anyway. I have tried refried beans. I figured if he liked dipping corn chips in guacamole why not bean dip? Wouldn't touch it. He used to eat mashed potatos, but stopped liking it a while back. I will try those again. I have tried oatmeal many times. I eat it in front of him, but can't get him to try it at all. He does eat a rice based banana pudding. He used to love raisins and eat them to the extent that I would cut him off for fear of his diapers, but lately he won't eat those either. Fruit smoothies- this I will try. He has some rice based ice cream (which he isn't very fond of) that I could blend with bananas. I bet he would at least try that. He used to eat 1 or 2 bananas every day. Of course now I can't get him to ever eat one. And last summer he ate so much corn on the cob, now he says he doesn't like it. It's like he's figured out what is nutritious and what is not and eliminated every nutritious item from his diet. Orange-carrot juice-tried it. He actually drank it once, but when I tried to give it to him a second time he wouldn't drink it. Sometimes I can succeed in getting him to drink orange juice. Usually it's apple or white grape juice. Thanks for the ideas, you've got me thinking again. Sometimes it gets so frustrating I get in a rut and just give him the same things I know he'll eat.
Ihatepeanuts-I made the drop cookies today only to get to the last ingredient and realize that the oatmeal I have is not quick cooking. I have to get to the store in order to finish, hopefully tonight after the kids are up from naps. I'll let you know how it goes.
On Apr 25, 2001
While you've got those blenders going... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Just wanted to mention that "quick" oats are essentially regular ("old-fashioned") oats that have been broken down a bit more. I have, in a pinch, thrown the old-fashioned kind in my food processor for a spin or two, and ended up with quick oats. Let them go too long, and you'll end up with oat powder. Nonutshere might be able to tell us if that's pretty much the same thing as oat flour...? I have used it *as* oat flour, but I'm not sure if it's one hundred percent the same thing!
CarsonsMom-- I just kept at it (the sugar) until it looked like I wanted it to! One way of telling if you're all the way there is to hold it under a light (range hood light works well) and see if you see any "sparklies". Those will be grains of sugar that still haven't been powdered, and you'll know to give it a little longer. We just did it as a kitchen project, so I didn't mind taking our time with it. Matt loved pushing the blender buttons, so we had a good time in the process. We did a whole two pound bag of sugar, and ended up with quite a good supply.
On Apr 25, 2001
Ihatepeanuts-Good cookies! We finished them tonight and ate a few. My picky son actually ate one. My husband gave the best compliment though. He has tried all my wheat-free attempts at bread, cake and cookies made for my son. After taking a bite of these cookies my husband said, "He can eat these?" He was convinced wheat-free meant taste free. M'sMom-oatmeal, oat flour, I have no idea. Actually I had oat flour in my cupboard, but this was the first time I used it. We only recently learned of my son's wheat allergy, so alternative baking is new to me.
On Apr 26, 2001
M'sMom-made banana milkshake (smoothie? what's the difference?) today. My son loved it!
On Apr 30, 2001
Nonutshere: I am so glad that you tried them and that your son ate one. I'm happy that your husband liked them too. I was also surprised that they tasted so good. My kids have been begging all week for me to make them again. Pretty healthy too. Well, I did find some cake, cupcake and cookie recipes. I have not tried most of these so I do not know how they taste.
1/4 c. shortening (you may want to try 1/8 cup lighter bake replacer......I love this stuff) 1/2 c. sugar (I usually use a little less) 1 c + 2 Tbl. rice flour 1/4 tsp salt 1/4 tsp cinnamon 1 1/4 tsp baking powder 1/2 c. orange juice. Bake at 350 in mini muffin cups for 15-17 minutes. I remember my son loved these but they were a bit powdery.
Applesauce Spice Cake:
1/2 c. shortening (or 1/4 c. Lighter Bake) 1/2 c. sugar 1/2 sifted rye flour 1 1/2 c. sifted barley flour 2 tsp double-acting baking powder 1 tsp baking soda 1 tsp salt 1/2 tsp cinnamon 1/4 tsp nutmeg 1/2 cup minus 1 Tbl sweetened applesause (I don't know why sweetened, I prefer unsweetened but maybe that wouldn't work as well?) Preheat oven to 350. Grease bottom of a 9" sqare cake pan; line with waxed paper; grease and flour (with barley flour) the paper. In a medium bowl, cream shortening and sugar until light and fluffy. Sift together the flours, baking powder, baking soda, salt, cinnamon and nutmeg. Beat one-third of the flour mixture into the shortening-sugar mixture until smooth; beat in the applesauce until smooth. Beat in another third of the flour mixture. Beat until smooth. Then beat in the remaining one-third of flour mixture. Beat 1 minute. Turn into cake pan; smooth surface. Bake 30 - 35 minutes, or until cake pulls away from sides. The center of this cake will not be as firm as a regular cake. Let cake cook for 1/2 hour; turn out. Serve sprinkled with sifted confectioners' sugar.
Apple Pudding Cake:
1/4 c. milk-free margarine 1/2 c. sugar 1 tsp vanilla 1 c. rice flour 1/2 tsp cinnamon 1/2 tsp nutmeg 1 tsp baking powder 1 tsp baking soda 1/2 c. water 3 cups pared and chopped apple Preheat to 350. Grease an 8 X 8 X 2" baking dish. Cream together the margarine, sugar, and vanilla until fluffy. Mix flour, cinnamon, nutmeg, baking powder and baking soda. Add flour mixture alternately with water to creamed mixture. Stir in apples. Bake 40-45 minutes.
6 Tbl soy margarine 1 c. brown sugar 1 1/2 Tbl water & 1 1/2 oil & 1 tsp baking powder; mixed 1 tsp vanilla 2 medium banannas 1 3/4 c. barley flour 1 1/2 tsp. baking powder 1/2 tsp salt 1/2 tsp cinnamon 1 tsp nutmeg Cream margarine, brown sugar, and pretend egg (that's the water/oil and baking powder mix) together. Add vanilla. In another bowl, mix dry ingredients. Combine wet and dry ingredients. Pour into greased 9 X 9 baking pan. Bake at 350 for 30 - 35 mins.
1 c. milk-free margarine 3 tsp. egg relacer 4 Tbl water 3/4 c. brown sugar 3/4 c. sugar 1 tsp. vanilla extract 2 3/4 c. oat flour 1 tsp. salt 1 tsp. baking soda Preheat to 375. Mix marg, egg replacer, water, sugars and vanilla until creamy. Set aside. In another bowl, stir together flour, salt, and soda until blended. Add to margarine mixture. Mix until combined. Drop by rounded spoonfuls onto baking sheets. Bake 9 minutes. Let cool before removing.
Chocolate Chip Cookies
2 cups rice flour 1/4 c. soy flour 1 tsp. baking powder 1 tsp. salt 1 c. milk-free margarine 3/4 cup brown sugar, firmly packed 1 tsp. vanilla extract 3 Tbl. water, 3 Tbl. oil, 2 tsp. baking powder; mixed together 2 c. milk-free chocolate chips (maybe you will have to use carob chips; not sure) Preheat oven to 375. In medium bowl, combine flours, baking powder, and salt; set aside. In another bowl, combine margarine, sugar, and vanilla; beat until creamy. Add water, oil, and baking powder mixture and mix well. Combine with flour mixture. Stir in choco- late or carob chips. Drop by level teaspoons onto greased cookie sheets. Bake 10 minutes. Makes about 2 dozen 2 1/4" cookies.
That's all for now. I know I have more recipes here for treats but I don't know how many you want. I try not to give my kids too much. They are happy with one or two recipes over and over (they aren't too hard to please). Again, I only tried the first recipe I listed, and that was years ago when my son was still allergic to wheat. I hope if you try the others they won't turn out to be a flop....but they might. I did find the Chocolate Wacky Cupcake recipe in FAAN. This one uses rice flour. I was going to post it but it sounds like you may have tried it. If yours sounds different, let me know and I will post the recipe. Here are a few other ideas:
Do you think your son would eat tuna? My husband recently came home with a jar of Hain eggless mayonnaise. He found it in the natural foods (or health food) area of our grocery store. My son just loves this mixed with tuna and chopped up pickles. He loves in on bread or crackers or just eating it with a fork. Sometimes I add little elbow noodles and he has a cold "casserole". Before this my son would eat plain tuna with cup up pickles (can you imagine? Pretty dry, but he didn't mind). This eggless mayo is great.
Also at our natural food area (or your local co-op) is something by Arrowhead Mills called Wheat Free Oat Bran Muffin Mix. It says on the box that it is high in dietary fiber. There's a recipe on the bake to make the muffins. Egg is optional so I never added that and they turned out just fine. We all ate them. For a long time this was my sons only "bread" because he never cared for the prepared wheat-free breads I would try to buy or the bread I tried to bake that always turned out like a disaster. He often ate these with jam on them or just plain. I made them in mini muffin tins so that he could have one little muffin with each meal.
Also, you might want to look for Van's frozen waffles. I do believe they are wheat free (it's been awhile but that must be the reason I bought them). They were always a hit with my son too.
I also bought a lot of the different rice noodles (elbow, spaghetti). My son ate wheat-free spaghetti a lot back then.
If I can think of anything else helpful I will get back to you. I know it's a lot of hard work to feed a child with these allergies. Keep up the good work and hang in there. Hopefully it will get better. Tracy
On Apr 30, 2001
CarsonsMom: As I was going through my recipes that I posted above, I came across this frosting recipe. I was surprised to see one without confectioners sugar. I never tried it so I don't know if it's good or not.
Chocolate Fudge Frosting:
2 cups sugar 1/2 cup powdered unsweetened cocoa 1/2 cup milk-free margarine 1/4 cup water 1 tsp. vanilla Mix all ingredients except vanilla. Bring to a full rolling bowl and boil 1 minute, or until mixture forms a soft ball in cold water. Remove from heat, add vanilla and beat until creamy.
Hope this helps! Tracy
On Apr 30, 2001
THANK YOU FOR THE RECIPE TRACY. WE WENT TO THE ALLERGIES TODAY. CARSON HAD A RAST TEST WHICH WAS NEGATIVE FOR CORN AND HIS SKIN TEST ALSO CAME BACK NEGATIVE FOR CORN THIS TIME (HORAY!). HIS RAST TEST FOR WHEAT ALSO CAME BACK NEGATIVE, HOWEVER HE HAD A SMALL HIVE ON THE SKIN TEST SO THEY ARE GOING TO DO A FOOD CHALLANGE WITH THE WHEAT. THE DR SEEMS TO THINK THAT HE WILL BE ABLE TO EAT WHEAT (he use to eat wheat flour before we found out about the peanut allergy in november). HE IS STILL ALLERGIC TO EGGS (HUGE HIVE) AND OF COURSE PEANUTS.
On Apr 30, 2001
Good lots of receipes, I am always looking for something to expand my son's diet. He too is allergic to Eggs, Peanuts, Wheat, Dairy, Soy and Oats.
For my son's birthday we made him a rice crispy treat cake with some great no dairy buttercream frosting (we substituted with Fleshmans' unsalted marg and rice milk). The best thing about rice crispy treat cake is it molds very nicely into pans.
I have tried alot of cakes and every diffent kind of flour (that isn't wheat or oat) and the all are terrible. Very gritty, dry and tasteless although my son doesn't have any comparison he has only eaten the rice crispy treat cake.
Good Luck Melinda
On May 3, 2001
CarsonsMom: That is terrific news about your son possibly outgrowing the corn and wheat. That will make things so much easier for you! I agree with Melinda, baking with other types of flours usually does taste pretty bad. If your son really has outgrown corn then you could make the rice krispie treats. I think their is corn syrup in the marshmallows. What we do, once in a while for a special treat, is put some mini marshmallows in a bowl, microwave them a little until the start to melt and then just pour in some rice krispies. Mix it up quick. It's a little sticky single serving treat. My son loves it. I don't even put margarine in it. He's also very happy with a mix of dry cheerios, mini marshmallows, raisins or craisins, chocolate chips or whatever we have on hand (pretzels sometimes). Again, good news about the corn and wheat. Let us know how the challenge goes. Tracy
On May 3, 2001
I Hate Peanuts,
I noticed on another thread that you mentioned that your son outgrew a wheat allergy. At what age?
My son carson definately has outgrown corn and I am keeping my fingers crossed that he will outgrow the wheat.
On May 3, 2001
Ihatepeanuts- Wow, you sure sound like a veteran. All those recipes! I will try one this weekend. My son is not like your kids in that many times he will love something for a week, and then never touch or want it again. I have thrown away breads, cakes, cookies (or eaten them myself) because after eating up my first batch, he suddenly decides he doesn't like it anymore. So I'm always looking for something new. I think the Vans wheat-free waffles-apple cinnamon are very good, however my son won't eat them. I do have a jar of Hain eggless mayo in my fridge. I bought it for a cake recipe. And his wheat-free crackers came in today. So I will try the tuna & mayo on crackers. He does think it is fun to "dip" food, so maybe it will work. thanks Melinda-A child with more allergies than my son, I feel for you. Is he a good eater? Is he on the thin side? It seems common with multiple food allergy kids. I am very fortunate that my son likes guacamole. I swear he has put on 3 pounds since he started eating it. If they can't get good fat from dairy, eggs, or soy what do they eat to get it? Rice milk does not have much fat or calories. Hopefully we will be like ihatepeanuts and Carson'Mom and have our children outgrow some of their allergies.
On May 4, 2001
I just found the most amazing thing! An off the shelf cookie that my son can eat -Organic Fig Newmans! Best of all he likes them. I am very fortunate to have found a formula that my son can have, it is called NEOCATE. I swear it is to only reason he grows. He is only 16months old and at his 15month apt. he was in the 90% for height and the 50% for weight. He eats just about anything I put in front of him (unless he is teething. As you know, though, it is not easy - no quicky foods here like mac 'n cheese or PB&J. I have been able to find Ham, Turkey and pork pre-cooked with no dairy, I cut it into cubes for lunch - it is easy with not much muss and fuss.
When he still ate baby food - life was good. He ate all his veggies and fruits, not so much now. A little fruit everyday and no veggies. The 24 oz of Neocate everyday keeps him healthy. We go to the Doctor on 5/18 for his one year allergy check-up. I am praying that he has out grown his oat and soy allergy.
On May 12, 2001
CarsonsMom: I wish I could remember for sure when my son outgrew the wheat allergy. I believe he was about 3. Even though he still has his other originally diagnosed allergies, plus more, it has really helped to outgrow the wheat allergy. This is the only allergy he has "outgrown". It makes baking so much easier. Not to mention regular noodles, bread, etc. I sure hope Carson will outgrow it and soon. Take Care! Tracy
On May 21, 2001
ihatepeanuts-Tried the vanilla cookies-excellent! They don't taste that much different than cookies made from wheat flour. I would recommend to anyone with wheat allergy(or without wheat allergy, I'm starting to like to oat flour taste, I think it grows on you). Max is eating these cookies up. Thanks
On May 22, 2001
Carson is scheduled for his wheat food challange on 6/28. Wish us luck.
I have to bring in my own wheat product. They suggested a wheat cracker, so now I have to find a wheat cracker without egg and that is safe for a peanut allergy. Any suggestions?
On Jul 5, 2001
Just wanted to add that some tuna in cans has casein which we all know can't be eaten by dairy allergic people. I couldn't believe that tuna in cans had casein in it! Some brands don't though so just have to keep looking.
There is a brand of soy free dairy free margarine. i have to find it and will post it here
On Mar 16, 2002
My son is allergic to peanut,egg,milk and soy,there's a great site [url="http://www.fatfree.com"]www.fatfree.com[/url] Alot of recipes are vegan which means no dairy or egg products. I even found great cake recipes that taste yummy!