Anyone carry Epi-pen on bus?

Posted on: Sun, 08/18/2002 - 10:48am
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pMy PA son is going into 4th grade. Up until now I have been comfortable with the way the school handles it. His Epi-pen and Benadryl are in the nurse's office with his photo on the wall. His teachers have always been willing (against policy) to have an Epi-pen in the classroom also. All staff are Epi-pen trained. /p
pHowever, I have never had him carry his Epi-pen himself (they make it very complicated with the whole no drugs policy) and now I am getting nervous about him not having it with him on his bus ride (very short - 10 minutes). I have also never approached the busdriver about training her. /p
pWhat do you all do about the bus situation? There is already a no-eating policy on our bus./p

Posted on: Sun, 08/18/2002 - 1:35pm
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Hi! I have just read the other thread on epis and the bus. Then I found yours. I am just amazed that so many people are having such problems with the bus. When I approached ds school spring of 2000, it was just assumed that there needed to be one on the bus. I bought him a backpack with one outside pocket. In it is a pre-measured dose of benedryl, his epi, and instructions. He is to sit in the front of the bus, behind the driver or the first seat on the other side. (It is my opinion that if someone wants to "sneak" food onto the bus, they are more likely to sit in the back, hence the decision to have him sit in the front. The other benefit is the proximity to the driver, but several children know him and watch out for him.)There are several children he knows who ride the bus, and they make sure that he has a seat. One day the primary driver was out and there was a substitute. The sub told him to "sit anywhere". One of the older students who knew him had him sit with her, and watched him closely. (He was kindergarten then. Will be starting first grade in 2 weeks.) I called the transportation office after that trip, and explained very politely that they had a "system" problem, and that I was sure they would address it once they knew it existed. I explained the circumstances, what happened, and said that I would be checking in with his school nurse (very proactive) in a few days to find out how they were going to solve this problem. They assured me that they would address it. A couple of days later, the nurse contacted ME, and told me what they were going to do about it. At NO time was it ever suggested that he didn't need it on the bus, that it was a "violation" of the zero tolerance policy, or that he couldn't carry it despite the fact he was only 6. This is from a school who had never had any PA children, in a district who has only had a few according to the info I was given. Obviously I have been blessed. The school has always been willing to work with me, and often offers either more than I expected, or exactly what I wanted. The only exception is the lunchroom, (which we are just facing for the first time) and this is a district problem. The school agrees, but needs the money to fund the aide from the district. I meet with them this week.
I guess I just want to say, if the epi needs to be there 24/7, it needs to be there 24/7, and that includes the bus! Keep up the fight! Kristi

Posted on: Mon, 08/19/2002 - 5:24am
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My son started Kindergarten this year and carries his epi and benadryl on him in an epi pouch. Nurse supervisor for all the school nurses in our system was very proactive and personally went down & trained the busdriver and 2 subs on how to use the epi pen. At first there was some hesitation with bus supervisor about training
how to use epi pens since there is a no eating policy on the bus, she thought this meant there was no way my son could come in contact with peanuts on the bus. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] I went over her head to the bus supervisor for the county and when he heard what she had told me you could hear a pin drop! He was quick to call her and tell her she could NEVER guarentee that! There is possibility of school projects that might have used peanut butter etc. Nurse supervisor called also and did alot of allergy education for them! I would stick with your guns in what you feel best for your child. Do you have a 504 coordinator for the school that you have sopke with about this? Do you have school nurse or supervisor who is proactive about this that could assist you??
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Posted on: Mon, 08/19/2002 - 6:43am
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Maryt, is that really you? I have missed seeing your posts. Glad to hear your big boy is going to Kindergarten. Its great to see you online ... hope you are well.

Posted on: Mon, 08/19/2002 - 10:31am
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I have found it helpful to have a very strongly worded letter from my son's allergist stating that my son is required to have the epi with him at all times. My son has just started kinder (first day today) and he had his epi in a small fanny pouch on his waist all day. The letter from the allergist helped everyone understand how important that he has it on his person, versus being in the nurse's office. Good luck to you.

Posted on: Mon, 08/19/2002 - 10:51am
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Hey dhumphries,
It is sooooo good to see your name around the boards again!! (This is *Connie*). My original name after posting all this time finally gave out and I had to switch to a new user name. Sorry to interrupt this thread..I just about fell out of my chair seeing your name again and am so thrilled you are back!!
My e-mail address you have for me has changed so I will contact you off the boards.
Welcome back!
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Stay Safe!
Connie

Posted on: Mon, 08/19/2002 - 11:56am
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My son will be going to first grade this year. He rode the bus last year as well. He sits in the front seat behind the bus driver "always". He also does carry his epi pen in his epi pack in his book bag.
Our school knows that he has to carry it with him at all times.
Maybe you should talk to your school district and explain how he "must" have his epi with him at all times.
Is it in his bookbag or does he wear an epibelt? Eitherway I would make sure that he had it with him. Just not worth taking any chances as I see it.
Best wishes,
Renee [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 08/21/2002 - 7:50am
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Thanks so much for all of your advice and encouragement. I was able to track down the school nurse and she has agreed to let my son wear his Epi-pen on the bus (he has something similar to an E-belt) and has also agreed to train the bus driver. She also is going to provide info on my son's PA to the bus company along with emergency contact info. I was firm and she "got it"! Thanks again for helping me keep my priorities straight and fight the fight!
Janet

Posted on: Mon, 08/26/2002 - 6:22am
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It is me! We moved in February and boys have been keeping me hopping, not to mention getting settled in etc! How are things going for you? Preschool going well?

Posted on: Fri, 09/06/2002 - 8:31am
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Around my area, (I live in Ontario, Canada) many buses carry epi-pens on them and the drivers are all aware of how to use them.

Posted on: Sat, 09/07/2002 - 10:27am
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Just to add a bit of info from the nurse at the pediatrician's office--the nurse (who was a school nurse at one time) said doctor's orders take precedence over school policy. She said that's the law. A doctor's order comes before the zero-tolerance policy.

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