Antibiotics prior to diagnosis with PA

Posted on: Sat, 01/06/2001 - 12:23pm
KIM I's picture
Joined: 11/29/2000 - 09:00

Just curious. When I was pregnant with my PA son I had to take antibiotics 1 time. Prior to Nick being diagnosed with PA he had traechelbronchitis and received a shot of rocephin, an antibiotic. We have a negative family history to allergies. I guess I'm just wondering if anybody elses PA child was on alot of antibiotis prior to their diagnosis of PA. Or if you were given antibiotics while pregnant.
I've read articles where they think the kids with weakened immune systems (asthma allergies etc) might have something to do with all the antibiotics we are given. I guess I'm just curious, did you receive antibiotics while preg. or did your child receive them before being dx with PA? Kim

Posted on: Sat, 01/06/2001 - 12:51pm
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KIM I, I thought this was a wonderful question. Now, I know that you wanted to hear from people without a family history of allergies, but I'll just come in anyway! [img][/img]
We do have a history of allergies and asthma on MY side of the family, not my husband's.
However, we do not have any history of food allergies.
Jesse did not even have his first viral infection until the age of ten months and he was diagnosed with PA at 18 months. So, that leaves 8 months in there. I do not think, at that time, that he was treated with antibiotics a lot. It was more the space after his diagnosis until we moved here 2-1/2 years ago that he was over-treated with antibiotics for ear infections (before they classed them into three different categories).
Now, I did have to take antibiotics on what I consider a more frequent basis while I was pregnant with Jesse. I'm trying to remember if I was the same with my daughter or not. I somehow don't think so. I was constantly being treated for urinary tract infections while I was pregnant with Jesse and I know, on one occasion, I ended up in ER because I read that having one in your third trimester could be harmful. So, I spent hours in emerg to come home with a prescription for an antibiotic. I do know this was a persistent problem even when I conceived Jesse. My immune system is definitely weak to begin with anyway, I believe and it certainly had had a good lot of antibiotics in it during the time I conceived and carried Jesse.
I do not believe it was as severe when I carried my daughter 2 years later.
Best wishes! [img][/img]

Posted on: Sat, 01/06/2001 - 2:06pm
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Joined: 12/29/2000 - 09:00

I had to take an antibiotic once for an upper respiratory infection when I was about seven months pregnant. My 20 month old PA child has never taken any antibiotics at all. We have no atopic family history.

Posted on: Sun, 01/07/2001 - 6:01am
san103's picture
Joined: 03/27/2000 - 09:00

I did not take any antibiotics when I was pregnant, and our son did not have any antiboitics before his pa diagnosis. We have penecillin allergies on our family, and I wanted to keep him off of them.

Posted on: Mon, 01/08/2001 - 7:46am
KIM I's picture
Joined: 11/29/2000 - 09:00

Cindy, Interesting that you were treated for UTI while pg with Jesse. The one time I did take antibiotics while pg with Nick was for a UTI. In my earlier post I said we had a negative family history for allergies but forgot my mom is allergic to every antibiotic under the sun. I also try to keep my kids off antibiotics for that reason, but I do understand that sometimes they are necessary. Nick has received more antibiotics than my other son due to his asthma fortunatley he has never had an ear infection. I'm interested in anyones post about antibiotics whether family history of allergies is positive or negative.Thanks Kim

Posted on: Mon, 01/08/2001 - 1:34pm
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KIM I., I was particularly interested in your question and what results/answers you do get because I do believe antibiotics have a lot to do with the breaking down of our immune systems and leave us more susceptible to allergies and other environmental "disorders". Now, some people may find my theory very strange, but I truly believe our bodies our breaking down because they are no longer able, in some cases, to accept the toxic air we breathe, the toxic foods we eat, etc.
I also recognize that that's very little we can do about it now. I use asthma is one of the basis for my argument. There is more asthma to-day than when I was a child and I believe it is because of the polluted air we're breathing. There are also more environmental allergies. My Mother, at 71, developed environmental allergies - not severe, but developed them regardless.
I believe there must be something written about how antibiotics do, in fact, help break down our immune systems and make us more susceptible to the infections that they are supposed to be fighting.
Also, having been through the gamut of antibiotics for both UTI and sinus infections, I also know that your body quickly becomes tolerant to a certain antibiotic so that it no longer works to get rid of the infection it was prescribed for.
At any rate, enough of my off-the-wall theory, but I do think it was a very interesting question and I am very interested in seeing what other responses you get.
As in the other thread currently going re blood type, etc. it would be interesting to see if there is even a slight co-relation between different things and PA.
Best wishes! [img][/img]

Posted on: Mon, 01/08/2001 - 2:37pm
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Joined: 12/02/1999 - 09:00

Well, with our strong history of allergies I don't think the antibiotics had anything to do with Logan's PA but we DID take them. I *think* I was on one round of antibiotics while pg with Logan to try to stop early labor (in case it was caused by an infection). Logan was on IV antibiotics for 5 days after he was born. He had numerous rounds of antibiotics for upper resp. infections prior to diagnosis and had 3 consecutive days of rocephin about a month before his diagnosis.

Posted on: Tue, 01/09/2001 - 9:47am
Dave's picture
Joined: 12/11/2000 - 09:00

Interesting thread.....I had penacillin in 1942 when it was pretty new and not generally available; the war and all. My PA followed very closely and its still here. No family food allergies.

Posted on: Tue, 01/09/2001 - 10:40am
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Joined: 12/26/2000 - 09:00

I was iv antibiotics due to an infection at the time my little one was born. In having to do an emergency c-section and having quit the antibiotics (LONG STORY), they put stephen on them for 2-3 days after he was born to make sure he was okay. Then at three weeks he was antibiotics because of a staph infection and in the hospital with what they *thought* would turn into encephalitis from a viral infection. He's been on antibiotics several other times in the last few months because he keeps clawing his skin open (from itching) and they are worried about infection. Most recently was about two weeks before he was diagnosed with PA.
Guess that was probably a little more than you wanted...

Posted on: Wed, 01/10/2001 - 10:10pm
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Anonymous (not verified)

I was just thinking about this same thing the other day.
Lauren was *constantly* on antibiotics between ages 3mos to 1.5, for earaches mostly until her tubes were put in. She is also allergic to amoxocillian. The only antibiotic I was on when I was pregnant was for a yeast infection.
Someone, I believe it was a physician, once told me that antibiotics actually 'disable' your immune system to allow them to get what your immune system cannot. I cannot guarentee it is true either way, but this was how it was explained to me. It seems to go along with what you were saying Cindy.
I'm a bit confused though. I thought I read in some documents from FAN that a PA person's immune system was OVERactive which is why they trigger on innocous things like peanuts, milk, etc. If, say, Lauren's immune system is overactive, why then would she have been sick all the time? I would have thought she would have had an iron immune system if it was overactive.
Am I remembering incorrectly, way off-base? Someone please correct me. (I'd look it up but I'm at work.)

Posted on: Wed, 01/10/2001 - 11:26pm
Orla's picture
Joined: 03/21/2000 - 09:00

I find this very interesting, My PA daughter
who had heart surgery when she was three and
a half had a lot of antibiotics from the age
of about one year to five because before the
surgery she was prone to chest infections and for a while after the surgery she had quite a few chest infections for a year or so.She is nine now and thankfully doesnt get
chest infections but has developed P A.
I have asked the Doctors is there any connection because there wasn't any history of nut allergies in either family but off
course I was told no there isn't a connections but I have serious doubts.


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