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Posted on: Sun, 06/27/2004 - 7:33am
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Cam's Mom, GREAT to see you posting! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Okay, I understand the cloth and water and why the preference would be for wipes, but momma2boys had mentioned disposable cloths.
The school has requested that you attend all field trips with your son. What happens if you are not able to attend? Does that mean that your son cannot go?
As you posted, you don't have a 504 Plan for your son, but a health plan. But I'm assuming in your answer that it means that even during a 504 Plan meeting the school could request/require the same thing? So, they could say, okay, this is what WE want in the 504 Plan - i.e., we want you on the field trips.
Is it all a kind of thrashing out process? Again, what happens if you are not able to attend, for whatever reason? Or, age appropriate, what happens when you feel that you no longer need to go on each and every field trip with your PA child?
Can you explain to me the difference between a health plan and a 504 Plan? Is a health plan legally binding like a 504 Plan is? Is it less contentious, arduous or something?
(Sorry, all of this is in an attempt to understand the workings of American schools if only so that I can help when say Jodi2boys has a question about wipes in the schools).
Again, Cam's Mom, great to see you posting! I've missed you. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Sun, 06/27/2004 - 8:42am
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Joined: 07/05/2001 - 09:00

it isn't in our 504 plan, but our school provides the wipes in his class. They jsut took over the responsibility. They stated that they would purchase them. I bought the first box only becuase they were not prepared in having them.
I'm sure if you have to keep the supply of them in stock it will get very expensive over time. I'd see what they are willing to do in keep up the supply. They do have a resonsibility to "keep" your son safe and I would think that that would [b]include[/b] purchasing the wipes.
best wishes,

Posted on: Sun, 06/27/2004 - 10:51pm
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

Yes, we are in Northeastern Pennsylvania like Renee and our public school district assumes the responsiblity of buying the wipes as well. This is virtually the only extra cost of educating Ryan, as the 504 is pretty much extensive planning.
I do know our district gets a quantity discount and buys the supply of wipes through WalMart. We do go through a lot! Every time the students enter the classroom (in the morning, after specials, after lunch, after recess--really anytime the kids reenter the room) a wipe gets used. If another classroom "visits" all those students use the wipes as well. All parents entering do it too, as well as other teachers.
Mrs. X, Ryan's First grade teacher checked her stats a few days before the end of the year. Her first grade class (2002-2003) had approx. 260 absences during the year. During the 2003-2004 when she had Ryan, the classroom absentee rate dropped to approx. 140. Coincidence? Who knows. But that is a substantial drop, with classroom size being pretty much the same.
Does anyone else have stats for washing hands, handwipes? Using wipes/handwashing could be a big plus for any district because of that stupid No Child Left Behind piece of crap legislation that includes quotas on attendance rates.

Posted on: Mon, 06/28/2004 - 1:53am
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Joined: 07/14/2000 - 09:00

Hi Cam's Mom! Big Waves and {{{Hugs}}}!
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Miriam

Posted on: Tue, 06/29/2004 - 9:29am
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

Hi Miriam -
Big hugs to you too - [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
Thank you!
Wow at the "coincendental" drop in # of absenteeism!
Our school (and I agreed to) opted to use sanitizer rather than wipes after each meal, snack and entering of the class room...this was due to the cost of the wipes vs the santitizer - but keep in mind Cam's classroom consist of 4 classes in one meaning 80+ students - that would mean two boxes of wipes per day with just snack and lunch. So we just have the wipes for the lunch room and the sanitizer in the classroom.
Some are not comfortable with just santizer though. But has worked well this year.
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Lana
[This message has been edited by Cam's Mom (edited June 29, 2004).]

Posted on: Tue, 06/29/2004 - 1:40pm
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Joined: 08/02/2002 - 09:00

Did you happen to catch my recent post about the Johns Hopkins study? The results of the study indicated that sanitizers do not appear to do as a good a job at removing peanut allergens as wipes, handwashing, etc.
Just wanted to make sure you were aware of this recent finding...
The post can be found here:

Posted on: Tue, 06/29/2004 - 9:48pm
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

Thank you, Nutternomore, for posting that info on handwipe effectiveness.
I told our principal and future second grade teacher about that during our last 504 meeting.

Posted on: Wed, 06/30/2004 - 11:26am
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

Thank you for posting that link, I had not read that particular study - although I did feel the same way (i.e. assumed that it just spread the antigen rather than eliminating)...but it was interesting to read the study, I plan on printing this out and showing it to the school, possibly changing it to the wipes.
Thanks again!!
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Lana

Posted on: Wed, 06/30/2004 - 3:43pm
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Joined: 08/02/2002 - 09:00


Posted on: Wed, 07/14/2004 - 3:29am
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Joined: 09/01/2000 - 09:00

Hi. My daughter's 504 plan calls for her classmates to wipe their hands before entering the classroom in the morning and after lunch. I have provided the wipes for the past 2 years (Kindergarten and 1st grade). When we meet with the principal before school this year, I'm going to ask that the school provide the wipes going forward. By the way, her 1st grade teacher said there were far fewer absentees than in past years, and also fewer than the other 2 first grade classes which did use wipes. Interesting.


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