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Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 5:04am
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If they are really claiming to be the one stop for all information, I think their should be an "Allergy" section that is easy to see at first glance. They really are hiding the information.

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 5:14am
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Yes, I agree that it would be very helpful for them to have an "allergy" section on their main menu. This would be a good suggestion for us to make to them. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 5:40am
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Well, I would consider this an example. Their newsletter talks of eating peanuts to lower the risk of diabetes in women, right? But nowhere does it mention that women who are pregnant or trying to get pregnant or who are breastfeeding should avoid peanuts if there is a history of allergy in the family although this would probably be the generally accepted advice of the medical community......
Now the other newsletter that comes up about diabetes research talks about eating peanuts when trying to lose weight....again no mention that if you are breastfeeding, though you may not want to do this if there is a history of allergy in your families...
I think the information could be more balanced.
take care
deb

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 6:23am
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Hello again
I am wondering to myself why I am actually responding to this forum; the whole purpose of this website is to provide useful information about nut allergies rather than argumentative postings.
The Canadian peanut board website does not provide sufficient information regarding anaphylaxis and peanut allergies; that is simply the truth. Hopefully they will make changes in the future to cater to those who want information on nut allergies.
Erik, thank you for responding to my posting regarding who funded the research on the link between peanut consumption and diabetes. It is imperative to ask the question of who funded various research, as this has been seen in the past to direct findings to the benefit of supporting the study in question. This is the truth, and anyone in the field of science can tell you this is the case.
Just one more note. As for the claims that peanuts are heart healthy and a great source of nutrition for those with diabetes, this may be the case. However, to maintain a healthy heart and body, it is never the case that one food source alone can provide the benefit of maintaining health. Instead, it takes a balance of different foods, with differing levels of appropriate fats, proteins, vitamins, minerals, etc. Our society demands singular cures or preventatives in the form of food or drug for the goal of preventing or curing illness/disease. However, the general population is slowly realizing that this usually does not work and instead the whole picture in terms of ones' entire diet or overall health should be looked at.

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 7:01am
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Hi Kim,
Thank you for posting. I don't think we are being argumentative. I believe all of my postings are calm and polite and to the point so I am not arguing, but rather, stating my opinions. It is always good to have a friendly discussion.
I just found when I was initially reading this thread that I was reading so many things that I could not agree with such as:
- the implication that Dr. Vadas and Dr. Salter (who has a PA child) had sold out to the peanut industry ("is there anyone not for sale")
- the comment that there was not "a single iota of information about peanut allergies" on the site
- the point that no one in the general public would benefit from hearing about the diabetes research except for "peanut farmers, dietitians and nutritionists"
- the comment that peanut farmers are "descendants of slave owners"
etc.........
After reading this I could not sit by and not make any comments. Others had stated their opinions, so I had to state my opinions as well in what I hope was a polite, calm and friendly way.
And I agree that it would be foolish to consider peanuts as the sole method of reducing the risk of heart disease/diabetes/etc. VARIETY is the key! Salmon... olive oil/canola oil... red wine... whole grains/flax seed.. exercise... etc. It is a combination of everything that is beneficial.
That's why a miulti-vitamin pill a day is not a cure-all. It only contains the basic vitamins. You are missing all of the other beneficial nutrients that can be found in fruits, vegetables, etc.
However, the peanut council was just reporting on the study that involved peanuts. Just as the fish growers association would only report on studies involving eating salmon, and the chocolate companies would only report on studies involving the health benefits of chocolate, etc etc.
A good site for those to go to who want balanced information on nutrition is the Nutrition Action Newsletter / Centre for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI):
[url="http://www.cspinet.org"]www.cspinet.org[/url]
I do hope that the Peanut Council will listen to our suggestions and incorporate more allergy information on their site. And Deb had a really good suggestion about the fact that it should be mentioned that pregnant women should stay away from peanut products. I noticed that this fact was not mentioned anywhere, and I searched other web sites as well (WebMD, etc) that had reported on this study. It seems everyone missed this point (except Deb) [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 7:03am
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I did post anti-peanut board on the school 504 plan forum and was surprised at the vehemence of the opposition, but now I understand your view much better and partially agree with it.
The peanut board's funding of research is to be commended, whether self-serving or altruistic, but I do not believe they are looking out for the best interest of PA kids when they lobby public institutions such as schools or (in Canada) the medical community. Also, their lobbying to keep peanuts on airplanes has been very effective (and caused me many headaches).
As we have seen in the U.S. government, he who gives the most money often gets the most attention. How can I compete with that as a single citizen? I can't supplement the entire school's lunch program or sponsor the dinner meeting at the School Nurse's Convention.
I understand where River is coming from.
Respectfully, trying to get my point across.
Nancy
(I almost didn't post because I was afraid someone would try to describe what I looked like.)

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 7:11am
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One note-
I am not defending the peanut board - I may disagree with 90% of their actions...
I was just stating my opinions regarding Dr Vadas, Dr Salter, the diabetes study, etc.
I don't want people here thinking I work for Planters!!!
(you all know I work for Nestle Canada already anyway)

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 7:44am
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O.K. Eric,
I'm picturing you as a large jar of Skippy with Mr. Potato Head white arms-- and dark, round glasses.
Couldn't resist.
Nancy

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 7:53am
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Hi Nancy,
That's funny! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] hehe
Anyway, rather than the Skippy peanut butter man, I'd rather be the Stay-Puff marshmallow man! haha [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 8:22am
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Kim, surely you know the internet well enough by now to know that all is not always goodness and light... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Anyway, FAAN (who is partially funded by *GASP* the National Peanut Board) has an ad campaign advising *at risk* pregnant and nursing women to abstain from peanuts, just FYI. Hardly in the NPB's best interests, correct? Here's the link:
[url="http://www.foodallergy.org/downloads/sorbo.pdf"]http://www.foodallergy.org/downloads/sorbo.pdf[/url]
You need Adobe Reader to view the ad.
My point about the peanut link to heart health, Kim, was to demonstrate the push toward preventative health measures. Surely you must realize that the Canadian universal health system will implode if society continues to abuse its collective health and then demands "Heal me!". If peanuts make you healthier (as well as olive oil, flax seed oil, fatty fish, etc.) then society needs to know about it. One last thing - peanuts are cheap. If one can't afford flax seed oil (it's expensive) then a few peanuts might be just the ticket to heart health. Salmon is no bargain either, for those on a fixed income. So, for that reason also, I am certainly not against peanut promotion. I am glad the "professionals" are on board to advise about allergies, but I (and certainly they) vehemently oppose the idea that they've sold out. If I was Jane Salter, with my PA daughter at my side, I would certainly laugh at the very notion.
Carolyn

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