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Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2003 - 2:30am
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Quote:Originally posted by Kim canada:
[b] Studies on this site mention that peanuts are 'heart healthy' and are a great food source for those with diabetes- Who exactly funded these studies-the Peanut Board? The only people who benefit from this group are the peanut farmers, dietitians and nutritionists selling the idea of how wonderful peanuts are. [/b]
Hi Kim,
The research to show that women who consume nut and peanut products have a lower risk of developing diabetes was funded by grants DK58845 and CA87969 from the U.S. National Institutes of Health.
The conclusions of the study were "Our findings suggest potential benefits of higher nut and peanut butter consumption in lowering risk of type 2 diabetes in women. To avoid increasing caloric intake, regular nut consumption can be recommended as a replacement for consumption of refined grain products or red or processed meats."
This study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association Vol 288 No 20 on November 27, 2002.
The link to this is at:
[url="http://jama.ama-assn.org/issues/v288n20/abs/joc20965.html"]http://jama.ama-assn.org/issues/v288n20/abs/joc20965.html[/url]
Even though we have a PA allergy, my belief is that if peanuts and nuts are beneficial to other members of society than it is good that this information be published.
I don't think it is only the peanut farmers, dieticians and nutritionists who benefit from this information - I believe the general public benefits from the additional knowledge.

Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2003 - 2:58am
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I did go back and look at the link to peanutbutterlovers.com. It still bothers me that the allergy information is not on their actual website, when they mention it in the intro to the website.
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Cynde

Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2003 - 5:02am
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Cayley's Mom, I agree with you. There are two ways to look at this. One may be perceived as negatively (river's and mine) and one may be perceived as positively.
I'm simply skeptical about associations between Anaphylaxis Canada and a highly respected allergist with the Peanut Board of Canada. Just as I am skeptical about FAAN and their associations and who they receive funding from.
Yes, I was mad earlier to-day. I've calmed down now.
I'm skeptical, that's what I'm feeling. Really, in actuality, saying that certainly these associations don't give me further hope.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2003 - 11:54pm
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cynde, did you get a response from The Peanut Bureau of Canada yet? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
I haven't. I'll post it when I do.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 12:09am
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The National Peanut Board and now the Peanut Bureau of Canada only exist for one reason:
PEANUT ALLERGIES
Peanut allergies affect the profit margins. Their only interest is to increase profit. If they do this by helping to create a cure---they will. If they do this by suppressing research and knowledge that they imagine will be harmful to profit---they will. That's what they do and that's what they were created to do.
I don't expect people who make their living researching and supporting PA people to also be working to promote the increased consumption of peanuts. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!
I like you Carolyn and anyone who watchs Star Trek must be ok---but don't simplify the complexity of this situation by statements like, "I don't understand what you guys want to do about this. Ban peanuts?" If you are going to resort to assuming statements like this, at least make sure the NPB pays you---don't give it away for free girl---nobody else seems to. No, this is not about a hell of a lot more than just marketing a product.
But to answer your question, What do I want? I want an open honest discussion about peanut allergies. How bad is it really? What as a society do we need to do about this real crisis? How many children are affected? What exactly is happening to our kids? How do we keep them safe?
I want to know without a doubt that those claiming to support PA children---really do.
And I don't want any sons-of-a-bitches, (or descendants of slave owners), manipulating the truth, controlling the media, suppressing research, 'paying' people directly or indirectly to set health and social policies, and buying their own profit friendly reality.

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 12:24am
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Holy cow river! Just a gentle reminder that you seem to be descending into "If we eat peanuts, then the terrorists win". Yikes!
My dh and I ate peanuts every single night before Cayley was diagnosed, because of their well-documented health benefits. We measured out a quarter of a cup each (so we wouldn't gain weight!) and nibbled on them to keep our tickers healthy. The health benefits of peanuts to the general population outweigh the relatively minute number of PAs. *Preventing* heart attacks and strokes is the name of the game - an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Sorry, but that's the way it is. If an agency wants to balance the "PA hysteria", that's fine with me. At least they're including info on PA (I have every confidence that this relatively new site isn't finished being built yet, hence the lack of comprehensive PA material, so far). You must understand that there is a LOT of misinformation out there on PA, you must! I do have confidence in Jane Salter to represent us - she's respected in her field and not out on the fringes like some food allergy "experts". One advocate that I've come across for milk allergy angrily postulates that there is blood and pus in every cup of milk - therefore NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND should be drinking milk. That's the kind of "ban peanuts" - "we can't eat them so nobody should eat them" attitude I sometimes see here.
Obviously your idea of keeping our children safe and my idea are different. So be it. You rage against the machine. But where you foster anger against the "peanut" I want to foster understanding about the "peanut allergy". So don't mind me if I jump into threads like these now and again.
Respectfully disagreeing,
Carolyn

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 12:47am
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I haven't heard a word from the illustrious peanut board yet. I'll let you know as soon as I do.
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Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 12:50am
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Quote:Originally posted by river:
[b]I don't expect people who make their living researching and supporting PA people to also be working to promote the increased consumption of peanuts. [/b]
Hi River,
I believe that Dr. Peter Vadas, Director, Division of Allergy and Clinical Immunology, St. Michael's Hospital and Dr. Jane Salter, President, Anaphylaxis Canada are not working to promote the increased consumption of peanuts.
As the web page states:
Quote:[b]Where would you go if you were looking for the latest news on peanuts? What if you could turn to one source for everything you needed, be it nutrition, health, allergy issues or recipes? In a nutshell

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 4:39am
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Quote:Originally posted by cynde:
[b]It still bothers me that the allergy information is not on their actual website, when they mention it in the intro to the website. [/b]
Hi Cynde,
The information is on their website. In the October 2002 issue of the "In a Nutshell" newsletter of the Peanut Bureau of Canada (posted on their web site), there is a front page cover story dealing with "Peanuts in the classroom" which talks about peanut allergies and anaphylaxis including a link to the Anaphylaxis Canada web site.
[url="http://www.peanutbureau.ca/documents/US_Oct_02.pdf"]http://www.peanutbureau.ca/documents/US_Oct_02.pdf[/url]
The front page story in the June 2002 issue also talks about the latest in peanut allergy research.
Of course it would be nice if they had more information on their web site, but at least they have some information and have made an attempt rather than having no information at all.
Quote:Originally posted by river:
[b]I want to know without a doubt that those claiming to support PA children---really do. [/b]
I forgot to mention in my previous posting that Dr. Jane Salter is the mother of a 10 year old girl who is allergic to peanuts. I think that even though she is a member of the Peanut Bureau of Canada's advisory board, we can assume without a doubt that she does support PA children as her own daughter is allergic to peanuts.
[This message has been edited by erik (edited February 19, 2003).]

Posted on: Wed, 02/19/2003 - 4:47am
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I agree Erik, about the reference to the descendants of slave owners. Wow! I thought we were kind of getting beyond that "sins of the father" mentality in this day and age. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
Carolyn

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