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Posted on: Fri, 06/14/2002 - 5:54am
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Joined: 04/10/2002 - 09:00

Just wanted to clarify that the main way my son keeps himself safe is by following a few simple rules:
1. When he is at school he only eats what he brings from home.
2. When anyone offers him other food he politely declines and never touches it. This can (and has on multiple occasions) happened in an instant at soccer games and other social events.
3. If he wants to eat food when we are anywhere besides home he always asks one of us first. He knows other adults are not equipped to make a decision regarding a food's safety. He also knows that he doesn't eat anything if we can't read the label.
4. He knows to tell substitute teachers about his allergy and he knows not to sit beside the "packers" at lunch. He knows to wash his hands if he feels something sticky on them. (Our school does not use peanut or pb in the lunches because they have to pay for it themselves, although they warned me it could occasionally be in the dessert. When my son buys his lunch at school, he requests no dessert. Anyway, the safest place for him to sit is in the middle of the kids who buy their lunch even though he almost always packs.)
We do not expect him to use any judgment regarding food other than following these rules that we have drilled into him since he was 1. He has been reaction-free for 5 years and just this week we found out that he is no longer contact-sensitive which he definitely was at 11 months, so instead of becoming more sensitive in non-peanut-free schools and classrooms, he is actually less!
I will confess that I initially wanted preschool to be peanut-free, but the teacher refused and, without a lot of options in our area, we decided to give it a try. I am thrilled with the way everything has worked out so far!

Posted on: Fri, 06/14/2002 - 12:30pm
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Joined: 04/10/2002 - 09:00

Sorry, didn't mean to respond twice!
[This message has been edited by Grateful (edited June 14, 2002).]

Posted on: Fri, 06/14/2002 - 10:01pm
river's picture
Joined: 07/15/1999 - 09:00

That's great that it worked out for you Grateful, and that you feel secure everyday with your son's safety----but the point is that it hasn't worked out for everyone. For many parents they went along fine just like your son, and then that one little mistake and that was the end of it all. I'm not trying to say that you are wrong. I don't know you or your son or your world. I only know that for many parents, it's too risky. And given the history of PA deaths in schools, it should be considered too risky for school officials as well.
The problem is politics and culture. The culture is a "frontier" mentality, which is prevelant in the US and Canada as well. It's evident in StuffGuy the ToughGuy's message. In my best John Wayne voice, "Ya can't tell me what ta do pilgrim, and if the kid can't take it he's gonna be toast." The Doner party killed and ate their Indian guides because they saw them as less than human--- because they were different. There is of course bravery in the frontier mentality but there is a dark ugly side also.
The second is politics. Peanut butter killing off American children? It's usually the kind of thing tabloids and talk shows thrive on. So how come no one touches it? They're afraid. Watching the Texas Cattle men try to go after Oprah, frightened a lot of these people, (who are generally not the bravest of humans anyway.) Despite the fact that Oprah whooped their fat old Texas Butts, YeeHaaa!, it still leaves people wary. The peanut industry is right on top of the "problem"---the "problem" of dwindling sales and low stock prices. They've come together in the establishment of The National Peanut Board. They've been pumping money into FAAN, and funding all the promenient PA researchers in the US and Canada. (Many people involved in PA are getting used to receiving a lot of money from these people.) And like I said before, who knows, maybe something good will come of it for the PA. But you can't forget that what they want is profits and they'll do whatever it takes to get them---it's the nature of the beast. They'd eat our kids just as sure as the Doner's ate their guides. It's not pretty but it's the truth.

Posted on: Sat, 06/15/2002 - 12:57am
Carefulmom's picture
Joined: 01/03/2002 - 09:00

I`m with river, although I don`t write as well. I have done all the same things as Grateful, and my daughter`s pa has gotten worse. You can follow all those rules and still have a reaction. Some children will react to occult exposures and some won`t. Unfortunately, mine will.

Posted on: Sat, 06/15/2002 - 2:23am
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

The trouble with me is, I have a nagging social conscience that allows me to examine my sense of entitlement relative to the "needs" of my fellow citizens. I won't get into my own "rant" here about how the "rights" of the many outweigh the "needs" of the few (believe me, it's quite a rant unto itself - I'm a Bill Maher fan) but I want to put forth this simplistic analogy.
Anyone here read the book "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson? This book spotlights the horror inherent in a society which values the good of society over the life of the individual. I would put forth the argument that an individual life always wins in the battle for entitlement. Surely we're enlightened enough, as a society, to forego some luxuries (like PB in schools) so other folks can live?
But, I will add, stuffguy, that I've enjoyed reading all your postings, and I wish you'd start some threads in the Off Topic section so we can go head to head with some really juicy social commentary.... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by Cayley's Mom (edited June 15, 2002).]

Posted on: Sat, 06/15/2002 - 2:30am
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

I also wanted to add that my daughter's teacher's last school had a ban on fish sandwiches - such as tuna and salmon - due to one student's allergy. So that school is responsive to creating a safe environment for more than just PA students. I'm in Ontario, btw.

Posted on: Mon, 09/05/2005 - 9:36am
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Joined: 05/20/2002 - 09:00

Just a question..
Two years later.. Have any of your "stuffguy the toughguy" opinions changed, now that you've got a better handle on things?

Posted on: Mon, 09/05/2005 - 9:38am
stuffguy's picture
Joined: 05/20/2002 - 09:00

Yes.. I'm checking back in to see how you all are faring with your various aproaches to it. And yes, I've still not changed my opinions. And yes. I'm still alive.
Now that that's out of the way, has anyone learned anything in the past couple years?

Posted on: Mon, 09/05/2005 - 1:29pm
MommaBear's picture
Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by stuffguy:
[b]You're on stuffguy parent camera. Now if they'd just give up bugging me for grandchildren.. *grin*
Anyhow, there have been some interesting statements made in this thread, and some that are just said over and over and over again.. Honestly, I don't care one way or the other about the school thing. I don't have kids. I didn't have one. Twould be nice, but *shrug*. **** , ban 'em from society. I'm for that. Outlaw the pesky little buggers.. Heck, while we're at it, lets outlaw anything that could hurt or inconvenience someone. [/b]
Quote:Originally posted by stuffguy:
[b]Just a question..
Two years later.. Have any of your "stuffguy the toughguy" opinions changed, now that you've got a better handle on things?[/b]
Quote:Originally posted by stuffguy:
[b]Yes.. I'm checking back in to see how you all are faring with your various aproaches to it. And yes, I've still not changed my opinions. And yes. I'm still alive.
Now that that's out of the way, has anyone learned anything in the past couple years?[/b]
Why? [i]Have you had any children yet[/i]?
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Posted on: Tue, 09/06/2005 - 4:03am
EmilysMom's picture
Joined: 09/03/2002 - 09:00

I see that a lot of the parents (myself included) on here have relaxed since I used to visit a couple of years ago. BUT, you have to remember something... We have been dealing with the allergy longer now. It is easier to trust our children.
I read your posting. I agree with you a lot. However, in the younger ages the kids need to be protected. Now that Emily is in second grade, we are having her take [i]most[/i] of the responsibility. Little does she know that I still watch how she does it, prepared to step in if need be.
My opinion has ALWAYS been that if Emily doesn't learn to protect herself, she [b]WILL[/b] die. The world isn't going to look out for her as a teen or adult.



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