adult with out epi -pens.

Posted on: Thu, 07/10/2003 - 1:48am
williamsmummy's picture
Joined: 03/26/2002 - 09:00

Last weekend took the kids on a picnic ( at knebworth house, which is near you Nick!)
A big group of us there and I noticed that one of the parents was eating nuts and playing with his sons. Being the neurotic bonkers mother that I am I was relived that William had decided to play with another group of children. So settled down to gossip with my SIL etc.
Then later in the afternoon another family arrive and starts talking etc . Then out of the blue, Dad gets up and the rest of his family begin to pack up and throw kids in the car.
Apprenttly this chap was starting to have a reaction , he is allergic to nuts, he was going that oh, so familier, shade of brillent red in the face and sweating and looking puffy around the eyes.
He blammed it on something he had never eaten before, but I did remeber seeing him shake hands with the other nut eating parent.

This man had forgotten his epi-pens, and planned to go home( they did live some distance away) and fetch them before going to hospital. MY SIL who is allergic to wasps offered her two epis , but he refused , I even offered Williams , as they were better than nothing, and I had another two in the bottom of my handbag,... see, ! told you I was bonkers.
He told us that he wasnt having any trouble breathing ,and got in the car and they left.

I wondered if anyone had done this ? and felt happy with it, am I over reacting if I said that I would not be happy for William to have this attitude?
I do know that epi pens are easy to forget when the last reaction was some time away.
I can see all to clearly how this situation would arise.
Would you take the epi pens from someone else?
or would you go home first?
or go straight to the hospital?

Posted on: Thu, 07/10/2003 - 2:08am
Gwen Thornberry's picture
Joined: 10/14/1999 - 09:00

Scene stealing diva that I can be sometimes (only sometimes, I promise you!), I would have made such a production! I'd have been grabbing for those epis and fighting off "volunteers" before you can say anaphalactic!
What springs to mind is 1)Male. Doesn't want to show signs of weakness. 2)Stiff Upper Lip! (you gotta love the English for that [img][/img]).
That was just crazy, IMO. I hope to goodness he wasn't in the driver's seat.....
If I didn't have any epis available, I would have gone to the hospital.

Posted on: Thu, 07/10/2003 - 10:50am
MommaBear's picture
Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by Gwen Thornberry:
What springs to mind is 1)Male. Doesn't want to show signs of weakness................. That was just crazy, IMO. [/b]
[i]Men[/i], huh?
[This message has been edited by MommaBear (edited July 10, 2003).]

Posted on: Thu, 07/10/2003 - 1:09pm
BS312's picture
Joined: 09/05/2001 - 09:00

Sarah- You are wonderful.
We have a male friend about 38 years old with a history of life-threatening reactions to peanut. My DH and PA DD (5 years old) met him at a game recently. They were outdoors and apparently peanut shells were around. This friend did not have his EpiPen with him, and my DD thought it was hilarious that her daddy called his friend an idiot for not bringing his EpiPen!
I guess that someday our adult kids will take chances that we would never take for them as long as we are in control.
If we ever forgot our EpiPen and a reaction started, I would borrow any available EpiPen and/or call 911. Ambulances carry epinephrine in our state. I would never try to drive DD to the hospital myself.
I have heard at least two stories about adult males dying of anaphylaxis in parking lots while trying to retrieve their EpiPens from their cars.

Posted on: Fri, 07/11/2003 - 1:46am
Annemarie's picture
Joined: 03/11/2002 - 09:00

I would have gone straight to the hospital myself. Especially seeing as how you have to go to the hospital after taking the EpiPen, going home first seems like a tremendous waste of valuable time. Men!
Though we don't know what kind of reactions he has, maybe he knew that this wasn't a bad one....?

Posted on: Sun, 07/13/2003 - 5:14pm
helenmc's picture
Joined: 05/01/2002 - 09:00

Wow Sarah - well done for taking enough notice & recognising what was happening.
I can undersand him not wanting a jab with an Epi if he didn't think it was too bad at that point, but to leave half a dozen of them and drive off to get his own? That was such a huge risk. I hope someone in his life tells him that.
Geoff (Helen's hubby)

Posted on: Tue, 07/15/2003 - 2:33pm
Kaye92's picture
Joined: 07/12/2003 - 09:00

I would have asked someone to stick me with the epi, borrowed another one (just in case) and had someone drive me to the hospital or had them call 911. Then return new epi's to those who lent them.
But, I'm paranoid and currectly freaked out by my allergies and finding out my son has allergies. Afraid to eat anything. Need counseling I think; although, this site is helping somewhat and adding to my dread, too.
Who needs food to enjoy, right? Just need enough to be healthy and live!

Posted on: Mon, 08/18/2003 - 12:36am
Connielynn's picture
Joined: 08/27/2002 - 09:00

Wow! Is he related to my SIL who is allergic and has had one anaphlyaic reaction and still refuses to carry an EpiPen? This is the SIL and BIL who said that I was a child abuser since we are so careful with dd. At sometime I think she will have another reaction, maybe if she dies, her husband will see the light? It is so sad.....

Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2003 - 10:47am
allergic@27's picture
Joined: 09/28/2002 - 09:00

I was at a bithday party for my dh's Aunt when his cousin who is Allergic to shell fish had a reaction and he would not take my epi-pin we did convince him to go to the hospital but I would have felt better if he had atleast taken the pin with him for the trip incase he got worse. He spent the better part of the night at the hospital and was lectured by several doctors and nurses about the need for epi-pins and how they could save his life.

Posted on: Thu, 09/18/2003 - 1:22am
sillyfeline's picture
Joined: 03/28/2001 - 09:00

Probably partly just fear. I mean, I carry them but tend to just clutch them and ride out the reaction anyway out of fear of what would happen if I used it. And I'm female... Not that this is something I advocate. I end up with after-effects for days.

Posted on: Wed, 10/01/2003 - 9:13am
Nutty Wife's picture
Joined: 09/26/2003 - 09:00

My husband always refuses to carry an epi- even if he knows he's going somewhere with a risk. He'd be really mad if he knew I always have one stashed in my handbag ready to jab him at a moment's notice...


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