A Must-Read Discussion on PB Ban in schools by NON-PA Folks

Posted on: Tue, 09/03/2002 - 6:06am
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pI was delighted to read this debate today on the Canadian Chatelaine site. I have copied a sample of the reactions from people whose children DO NOT HAVE PA to an anonymous poster who complained about PB bans in school./p
pSorry it's so long - there is some great stuff posted at that site! You go ladies!!! /p
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[i]This is the first post that started the debate...[/i]/p
pThis just irks me/p

Posted on: Tue, 09/03/2002 - 6:09am
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Just to focus on something that really jumped out at me, I loved this particular line:
[i]... my usually rational brother in law complained bitterly a few years ago because his sons' school instituted a peanut ban and "What am I supposed to do when it's the only thing my kid will eat?" Well, it's not the only thing his kid will eat; it's just the [b]only really quick and easy thing[/b] his kid will eat and in the greater scheme of things, his kid's food PREFERENCES take a distant back seat to some other kid's life and death issues.[/i]
Hit the nail on the head or what?! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Carolyn

Posted on: Tue, 09/03/2002 - 8:26am
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Carolyn,
Thanks for posting it. Well, that's Canada for you. I always say I'm moving there. My husband's whole family is refugees and they have the hardest time getting in anywhere to live--but Canada takes them. We visit a few times a year. It's a beautiful country in more than one way (my grandparents were French Canadian).
When I saw the title of your post I thought, no, I can't handle this, I'd better not read it, not on my son's first day of school...I was sure it would be awful. Am I a pessimist or what? I'm glad I ended up peeking!

Posted on: Tue, 09/03/2002 - 8:58am
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Wow! Thank you for sharing all that. Today was also my dd's first day of school-- 3rd grade-- and reading this really made my day. It's ultimately wonderful when others who are NOT PA that *get it* come forward to our defense, isn't it?

Posted on: Tue, 09/03/2002 - 10:27am
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As far as I'm concerned, these women have earned their place in heaven.
Gee, if DH could practice law in Canada, I'd put my house on the market tomorrow!
Amy

Posted on: Tue, 09/03/2002 - 12:02pm
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Cayley's Mom, great post! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Isn't it interesting to read the perspectives of non-PA parents and how wonderful at that! I was really pleased with what I saw above and just hope that most people to-day have the same attitude as those women posting. My son's "peanut free" classroom letters went home to-day as did letters to the whole school and I could hear a lot of chatter after school about peanut butter, etc., but kinda zoned out because I didn't want to hear if there was anything negative.
Maybe there wasn't. And yes, it is a great thing to be Canadian, especially with a PA child! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Going Nuts, I'll start shopping for a house for you in Belleville since I can't buy one, they're beautiful, and inexpensive! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Again, Cayley's Mom, great, thank-you! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Fri, 09/06/2002 - 5:46am
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Quote:Originally posted by Cindy Spowart Cook:
[b]Cayley's Mom, great post! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Isn't it interesting to read the perspectives of non-PA parents and how wonderful at that! I was really pleased with what I saw above and just hope that most people to-day have the same attitude as those women posting. My son's "peanut free" classroom letters went home to-day as did letters to the whole school and I could hear a lot of chatter after school about peanut butter, etc., but kinda zoned out because I didn't want to hear if there was anything negative.
Maybe there wasn't. And yes, it is a great thing to be Canadian, especially with a PA child! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Going Nuts, I'll start shopping for a house for you in Belleville since I can't buy one, they're beautiful, and inexpensive! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Again, Cayley's Mom, great, thank-you! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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My school just started up with a peanut free class. I don't know all the facts but am aware of life threatening problems. My son has asthma real bad, if he comes in contact with cat hair and or dander, even if on someones clothes he starts labored breathing and his lungs fill with fluid and he can drown! But, that is my responsibility as his parent to care for that. I don't feel that it is the responsibility of the other parents in his class to have to rid their houses of cats and or dogs so he won't react. I medicate him before school, I check on him during the day while he is in school and if for some awful reason he became worse and reacted everyday at school I would opt to home school him. As a mother my first concern is my child. I can't have everyone else doing my job. I would never send my child to a public and or private school if he/she had such a life threatening disease. Yes, PA kids have rights but so do the kids that don't have PA.
ps: regarding the pb sandwich thing, well, I try every type of food under the sun for my child and unfortunately he prefers PB. I am not going to starve my child. I know, what if my child had PA, well, he doesn't and I feel lucky but you know, I have a very dear friend who's child has CF! You talk about life threatening.......and she feels as I do about pa. She opts to not send her child to school and will home school her if sickness runs through the school.
Who has the answers? Know one is right and know one is wrong!
[This message has been edited by AMOM (edited September 06, 2002).]

Posted on: Fri, 09/06/2002 - 7:03am
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Amom,
You wrote
But, that is my responsibility as his parent to care for that. I don't feel that it is the responsibility of the other parents in his class to have to rid their houses of cats and or dogs so he won't react.
We don't feel that it is the responsibility of other parents to eliminate peanut butter from their houses. If they do use peanut butter, we just will keep our children from going to their houses, as you keep your child from going to other parent's houses that have cats.
A school is a public place where all children have the right to learn and interact with other students with no worries of dying from peanut allergy or from cat hair allergy.
YOu also wrote: ps: regarding the pb sandwich thing, well, I try every type of food under the sun for my child and unfortunately he prefers PB. I am not going to starve my child.
There are many other type of sandwiches that can be sent to school: cheese, ham, soy-nut butter, etc. Children will not starve themselves. He may prefer PB, but other children may prefer potato chips for lunch, or chocolate bars for lunch, or softdrinks instead of milk. Kids can't always have what they prefer.

Posted on: Fri, 09/06/2002 - 7:50am
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So according to your logic AMom---if my kid really really really wants to bring in his new kitten to class, (poor little guy he's in tears everyday to do this and has often brought his animals for show and tell)---to hell with your kid and his asthma. Let the weakling stay home that day and miss school. It's your problem, not mine. What does it mean to me that your child could die? He's not my kid. You deal with it. If he's that weak---why do you let him come to school? He should be in your animal-less home---away from everyone else. Don't put your problems onto me!
Honey, you ain't much of AMom at all. But me---I'd stand up for your kid in a second, cause I was born with a couple of odd genetic traits called empathy and caring. You'll find them in the dictionary.

Posted on: Fri, 09/06/2002 - 8:22am
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Good analogy with the kitten, river.
I posted this thread to show it's not all ugliness out there. But thanks to AMOM we know it's thriving despite positive considerations made for anaphylactic children.
Carolyn (a PB lover who complied with a peanut ban at school for 2 years before Cayley was diagnosed with it and somehow didn't mind a bit. Compassion is a strange thing - I wonder if it's inherently missing in some folks or they just lose it along the way?)

Posted on: Fri, 09/06/2002 - 9:51am
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For those curious about the entire thread with this debate on it, it's available for viewing for the [b]next few days only[/b] at: [url="http://community.chatelaine.com/fserver-jsp/7/?s=display"]http://community.chatelaine.com/fserver-jsp/7/?s=display[/url]
You have to scroll waaaayyy down until you see a bolded thread titled "What is your favourite boxed lunch?" by kitty katz.
Chatelaine's message boards move fast and are not archived, so if you want to read it you should try to visit it within the next few days. Also, you must register at the site in order to post a response (there's no charge) - I'm not a registered member, I just "lurk" and read the posts occasionally. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Carolyn
[This message has been edited by Cayley's Mom (edited September 06, 2002).]

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