504 update mtg w/ old teacher?

Posted on: Wed, 05/23/2007 - 10:33pm
MattsMommy's picture
Joined: 07/29/2002 - 09:00

Just a quick question. We're going to update/tweak Matthew's 504 plan for next year (1st grade). Last I heard they were still filling 1st grade teaching positions and we shouldn't expect to see his 1st grade teacher at the meeting.

However, it appears that his kindergarten teacher will be in attendance. She followed the plan well once it was in place, but in the planning phases she was quite an obstacle. I looked forward to a 504 meeting without her inane reasoning and questions. Her and the and the school nurse would feed off of each other and made it quite difficult at times.

I plan on asking why she is attending but wanted to ask here first. Is it odd she's attending or is that just me? I keep thinking her only purpose would be to tell us what she felt worked, what was reasonable, what helped, etc... If I trusted she would give an honest assessment of that I wouldn't think twice about it. But we obviously don't.


Posted on: Wed, 05/23/2007 - 11:01pm
saknjmom's picture
Joined: 04/02/2003 - 09:00

maybe she is moving into the first grade spot. We just had a kindergarden teacher move up this year....

Posted on: Wed, 05/23/2007 - 11:33pm
MattsMommy's picture
Joined: 07/29/2002 - 09:00

No thank goodness she's not. Even if she was, the principal wouldn't put Matthew in her class. We had many other issues (academic) with her that were never resolved and I'd rather set myself on fire than think about dealing with her for another whole year. LOL

Posted on: Thu, 05/24/2007 - 12:07am
caryn's picture
Joined: 11/20/2002 - 09:00

though we don't have a 504 -- our principal met with our current teacher for kdg and the first grade teacher (who has a child with PA now) and a 2nd grade teacher to review the year -- he asked them 5 questions - something like -- what went well, what didn't, how is the child gaining responsibility, how did the other kids do and so on.
then we met with the principal, nurse and 2 other parents with kids with severe PA who were in these 2 classes -- he went over the teachers responses and asked us for our opinions for the year then let us know that our child would move into the first grade class of the teacher who had the child with PA this year and we could feel free to contact her.
I like the idea of the principal meeting with them without us --they had more freedom and No personality issues or getting off track. it was immensley helpful in planning for next year.
I know that this would not be true in all cases -- and it sounds like your teacher might be difficult.
I have a very structured child and in the case of food allergies it seems like the organized and structured teachers handle the allergy well and the principal feels that way as well and so far the teacher for kdg, first and eventually 2nd are that type of teacher.
i definitely want his food allergies looked after but i don;t want him in the wrong class academically either - he has blossomed this year and i think it is due to the teacher -- he will be leaving kdg reading on a middle of first to middle of seconfd grade reading level - he obviously is growing with her.
I hope and pray that the teacher can see the benefits of your 504 and how it helped her in the classroom!!!!!!

Posted on: Thu, 05/24/2007 - 1:21am
Carefulmom's picture
Joined: 01/03/2002 - 09:00

I agree with you that it is odd she is attending. My dd is in 6th grade and we never had a 504 meeting with the teacher who was about to pass the class on to the next grade. I also wonder what the point is.

Posted on: Thu, 05/24/2007 - 1:31am
mcmom's picture
Joined: 06/15/2004 - 09:00

If *you* did not request her presence, she shopuld not be there ubless she is a member of the 504 team for your school.
My first 504 meeting, I requested the teacher for that year and the nurse to be there. The other attendees were the 504 coordinator (principal) and someone from special services who is on the 504 team. I redid the 504 last year, and met just with the principal, as he is the 504 coordinator.
You should be able to ask she not be involved if you don't want her there. Cite your child's right to privacy re medical issues if necessary. The teacher won't be involved with him next year, a 504 should be confidential.

Posted on: Thu, 05/24/2007 - 2:06am
Corvallis Mom's picture
Joined: 05/22/2001 - 09:00

I think the more diplomatic thing might be to question whether she'll have very useful input.... given that Kinder isn't likely to be structured the same way as 1st.
Maybe a first grade teacher's input (even if it isn't the teacher your child will end up with) might be [i]at least as valuable.[/i]
OTOH, I can see the perspective of 'this was difficult to implement in practice' being useful input. I mean, if it is next to impossible to have two adults properly supervise handwashing for thirty children simultaneously, then [i]that[/i] is a genuine issue that might need resolving for the coming year. KWIM? From that POV, I think (as much as I hear what you're saying from the personal standpoint) you need her input.
But I still think you'd want [i]some[/i] input from a teacher who is currently teaching the grade your child will be entering. The Kinder teacher isn't likely to be as familiar with curricular issues that might come up next year-- like using nut shells for a particular 'traditional' Fall art project, say.

Posted on: Thu, 05/24/2007 - 2:53am
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Joined: 06/21/2003 - 09:00

[This message has been edited by NicoleinNH (edited June 09, 2007).]

Posted on: Thu, 05/24/2007 - 3:05am
Gail W's picture
Joined: 12/06/2001 - 09:00

Personally, I don't find it odd. I wouldn't have a problem with the idea that a former teacher attending the meeting EXCEPT that this particular teacher was difficult.
I don't believe that the parent can dictate who is on the committee and who is not on it (not that a parent couldn't express their opinion though). The parent(s) is one member of the committee.
Our 504 Team has a "teacher representative" position and that teacher has changed each year. For the last two years it was not even a teacher that Mariah had, but still very capable of bringing a "teacher perspective" to the committee nonetheless. I found it valuable anyway, perhaps moreso because Mariah is in Middle School with multiple teachers.
In this situation I think the former teacher could potentially bring some appropriate information to the team. <> Too bad she's just not trustworthy. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

Posted on: Thu, 05/24/2007 - 3:39am
PurpleCat's picture
Joined: 01/28/2006 - 09:00

My DD's current teacher has always been in attendance for our annual 504 mtg in May. This year her current teacher and team were at the meeting even though my DD will be changing schools in Sept. As strange as this all seems, I was told this is standard with our school system.
The year I did have problems, that teacher had some good insight to share with the group.
I would view this in positive light and use her experiences to help you. She doesn't sign off on the 504, you do.
[This message has been edited by PurpleCat (edited May 24, 2007).]

Posted on: Thu, 05/24/2007 - 5:03am
MattsMommy's picture
Joined: 07/29/2002 - 09:00

Thank you all for the replies. I agree (I feel like a 6 yr old who is saying 'but I don't liiiiiike it" lol) that her input CAN be valuable.
I asked the principal who emailed me back and said they always have the outgoing/incoming teacher on the 504 team.
Personally that makes me feel better that it's standard, not just something they're doing for Matthew's 504 team. At least we won't be surprised by much of what she might say...we "know" her so to speak so be it positive or negative, we'll be alright with her there.
Thanks again!

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