504 questions again!

Posted on: Mon, 01/22/2007 - 10:31pm
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i am going to get a 504 for my son next year,for pre school, i found out last october that is his in fact qualified.
the head of the upk program called my last week and told me that he isnt qualified for a 504 for pre school. now what ive read, 104.38 states that he is qualified and 104.31 states that any school that gets federally funded cant deny him a 504... my question is ..

is the law in ny tht he cant have one in pre school? or is this lady just a butt head?

and then i have another question , how do i get started on a 504? if the head of the preschool is so adament that he isnt elligable? and told me that i should send him to a boces program for special needs kids. ive been to this pre school and my son souldnt be there. there are alot of emotional problems children and alot of very very disabled children. my son would dissapear in that classroom. plus i know that a 504 is for a child with a disabilty (pa i know is a hidden dissabilty)_ but come on. he dosnt need to go to a special school because of it. i am so angry i cant stand it right now.

grrrrrr
erin

Posted on: Tue, 01/23/2007 - 7:26am
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Is this a state run preschool? There are cases where kids can get a 504 for preschool. Did she say why he wasn't eligible? Was it because she thinks PA doesn't qualify or because she thinks that preschools don't have to do 504 plans?
By the way, you are right about not sending him to the special needs program. If his only disability is PA, that would not be an appropriate placement--certainly not the "least restrictive environment."
Cathy
[This message has been edited by Momcat (edited January 23, 2007).]

Posted on: Tue, 01/23/2007 - 8:48am
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Momcat is right, the special needs placement is not appropriate just for PA, as it is a "hidden disability" and that would not be the "least restrictive enviroment".
When you talk to her next, or write to her, be sure to use that lingo, and remind her that what she is suggesting is actually illegal.
I am not sure about the 504/preschool issue...is this a federally funded preschool? Not sure it applies to private preschools unless they receive federal funding. Someone else can probably answer this better.

Posted on: Tue, 01/23/2007 - 10:15pm
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the pre school is run buy th e school district that he will be attending when he is school age. so know that they do get federal funding.
my sister (the social worker) says i need to have a meeting with her to voice my concerns and to find out why she suggested that school and to find out why she told me he wasnt ellegable for a 504 in the first place. i think she said that about the 504 because she didnt want to deal with the hassle of it.
i dont know i thought ny was more advanced than that.

Posted on: Wed, 01/24/2007 - 12:49am
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I wasn't familiar with boces or upk, so I learned some basics here:
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOCES"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOCES[/url]
[url="http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/nyc/upk.html"]http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/nyc/upk.html[/url]
Is it possible they aren't referring to 'placement', but rather where to direct your request? . . . i.e. where to send your formal, written request for a 504 evaluation?
Otherwise, this is quite disturbing. . .
BTW, did you say your [i]sister[/i]. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 01/24/2007 - 1:20am
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This is an exerpt from the upk link above (bold added by me):
[i]"(3) Support services provided to children and their families necessary to support the child in his/her transition into and participation in the universal prekindergarten program. Support services in the child's home language and in English must be provided for children who come from homes where languages other than English are spoken. Support services pursuant to Education Law, section 4410, [b]for preschool children with disabilities shall be integrated into the program [/b]and provided in accordance to the needs specified in a child's Individualized Education Program (IEP) pursuant to section 4410 of the Education Law." [/i]
I read this to mean that a child with a 504 designation will be integrated in the upk progam.

Posted on: Wed, 01/24/2007 - 3:03am
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Quote:Originally posted by smudgesgarden:
[b] how do i get started on a 504? if the head of the preschool is so adament that he isnt elligable? [/b]
I would completely bypass her and write a letter to the School District's 504 coordinator requesting an evaluation for your son. It is important to do this in writing or you will probably just get the brush-off. You don't have to say anything about your conversation with the head of the preschool. Just make a polite, formal request for an evaluation for 504 eligibility.
Cathy
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Mom to 7 yr old PA/TNA daughter and 4 yr old son who is allergic to eggs.

Posted on: Wed, 01/24/2007 - 11:44am
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gail---- upk is free pre school in the school district. ny has this in all the school districts (im pretty sure) at least up state ny does. its on a first come first serve basis so i got him signed up for upk in september 06 for the fall of 07. the boces program is for "special needs" kids in the aera. mainley kids with phyical and emotional disabilaties. now they do have a small number of "regular" kids at that school, but my son is very shy and he will dissapear there.
sorry about not clairifying myself earlier. i assumed that upk was a national term.
also my sister is "a" social worker.. (out of state)not "the " social worker (at the school). sorry i didnt make that clear.
cathy--
how do i find out who is the 504 coordenator for the school district??
on a diffrent note. i did call the upk teacher at the boces program and i asked her about the snack program and it turns out that other parents send in the snacks so that rules out that school. no way! ive delt with parents sending in the snacks at the last school he was in. (parents sending in food clearley labled with "may contain" and when confronted they said oh i know but we decided it would be ok ... and the teachers allowing that!!!!!!!!!)
the school i want him to go to follows the district menu so i would have plenty of time to see what they are serving for lunch and to decide if i need to send in his lunch for the day.
so there is no way hes going to the boces program....
does that make any sence? hope so.
thanks for all the replies. it realy helps.
erin

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