504 advice, had my pre-meeting yesterday...help

Posted on: Thu, 03/01/2007 - 1:32am
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Okay, the pre-meeting was just with the coordinator(our assistant principal) and she just told me what we woudl be covering and who would be there, at the next meeting, the real meeting. I went in very business-like, no emotion(as suggested) and brougth nothing to the table other then the letter from the allergist and his test results. She asked if I brought in an outline of the 504 I want to work on. Now do I write down everything I want done by the school and they okay or not okay it?? Or do I make the school write down what they are *willing* to do for my son and change *their* outline??

I copy/pasted the outline from
[url="http://www.foodallergyadvocate.com/504Plan.htm"]http://www.foodallergyadvocate.com/504Plan.htm[/url]
and just started answering the questions but fit them for what I want for Jake. Should I not do that?? I don't know if it will help them understand what *level* I want them to be involved, or if it's giving them too much and they will then fight me on most of it???? That is the only 504 sample I have to refrence....and this is their first 504 for food allergies, so I'm not sure they know *what* needs to be addressed and me providing them with an outline of what I want done will help or hurt my case.....auuughhh!!! Any advice??? I'm suppose to email her the information soon, so they can look it over and be prepared for the meeting. should I tell them I'm not going to, or should I do it??

here is a sample of what I've done already...

MEDICINE PACK CONTENTS AND LOCATION

Where will the pack be at all times during the day? In health office...possible other locations??
What medicines will be in the medicine pack? 2 Epipens, Bendryl, Albuteral and Areo-chamber
Will there be administration instructions with the medicine and their correct doses? Yes
If there is liquid antihistamine in the Medicine Pack, will there be a measuring utensil in the Medicine Pack? Benedryl melt strips
Who will be responsible for checking the expiration date of all the medications that are kept at the school and how will this information be documented? health aide
What if the first dose of the medicine does not seem to be working? give 2nd dose and call 911
Will copies of the child

Posted on: Thu, 03/01/2007 - 2:02am
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The outline is a great tool for you to work on accommodations. Definitely write up your answers to the questions. However, I would not bring them out and discuss them until you actually have a signed statement that your child is *eligible* for a 504 plan. Eligibility should be decided before accommodations are discussed because you don't want the school's decision to be colored by their opinion of the accommodations you are asking for.
Cathy
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Mom to 7 yr old PA/TNA daughter and 4 yr old son who is allergic to eggs.

Posted on: Thu, 03/01/2007 - 2:23am
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Posted on: Thu, 03/01/2007 - 2:31am
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Quote:Originally posted by Momcat:
[b]The outline is a great tool for you to work on accommodations. Definitely write up your answers to the questions. However, I would not bring them out and discuss them until you actually have a signed statement that your child is *eligible* for a 504 plan. Eligibility should be decided before accommodations are discussed because you don't want the school's decision to be colored by their opinion of the accommodations you are asking for.
Cathy
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thanks Cathy and Nicole...I actually agree, but wanted someone to say it. I will suggest they contact me after he is for sure *eligible*...or maybe give her the outline blank and say we can work on it togehter at the real meeting. But that way she can still see the topics and areas, just not the details?? I'll try that!! Thanks ladies!!!
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Chanda(mother of 4)
Sidney-8 (beef and chocolate, grasses, molds, weeds, guinea pig & asthma)
Jake-6 (peanut, all tree nuts, eggs, trees, grasses, weeds, molds, cats, dogs, guinea pig & eczema & asthma)
Carson-3 1/2 (milk, soy, egg, beef and pork, cats, dog, guinea pig and EE)
Savannah-1 (milk and egg)

Posted on: Thu, 03/01/2007 - 2:49am
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I liked the format that Rhonda has posted. It reminded me of so many areas that I would not have even thought about asking for in a 504 plan. Things that I do feel are necessary for my son's safety, but sometimes you just get overwhelmed and cannot think of everything.
Are you ok. with the Epis being contained in the nurse's office? I'm just curious because I will be requesting that a pack follow my son wherever he goes in the school until he is old enough to carry it himself.

Posted on: Thu, 03/01/2007 - 2:51am
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Quote:Originally posted by chanda4:
[b] I will suggest they contact me after he is for sure *eligible*..
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I don`t think I would use that wording. It makes it sound like you are not sure he is eligible. That makes it easier for them to tell you he isn`t eligible. Anyone with life threatening pa is eligible. I agree about the rest though---don`t discuss accomodations until the school says he is eligible. I am not exactly sure how I would word it, but I would operate on the assumption that he is eligible, because he is.

Posted on: Thu, 03/01/2007 - 3:11am
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One tactic I found very useful is to simply be very pleasant, but not sound [i]TOO[/i] up on what accommodations you want...or procedural safeguards. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] Their responses will give you some idea of how resistant and ugly they plan to get (if at all).
[i]"Oh, I thought we would cover all of that once the eligibility was established..."
"I am still focused on the eligibility meeting right now...."
"Isn't that backwards? I thought that we had to do the eligibility determination first."
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You know, things like that. My school (which was extremely cooperative) verbally agreed to eligibility prior to meeting, but [i]still[/i] didn't push me to outline accommodations. Which I did not. I said the first two things above and they left it alone.
On the other hand, they did make it clear that our meeting would be held in one go, with two phases-- one for eligibility, and the second part for hammering out a 504 plan. Which went off like clockwork.

Posted on: Thu, 03/01/2007 - 4:15am
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Quote:Originally posted by mistey:
[b]
Are you ok. with the Epis being contained in the nurse's office? I'm just curious because I will be requesting that a pack follow my son wherever he goes in the school until he is old enough to carry it himself.[/b]
to answer this, I am going back and forth. Just an Epi in the health office doesn't seem enough to me. They have a good system though, which we takled about. ALL classrooms have intercoms, all the teacher would have to do is intercom "we need Jake X's Epipen in classroom/art room/lunchroom etc...) and it would come running. I thought the teacher had to leave the child, run to the office etc... so I can see that being okay. BUT....what about a fire drill or a lockdown. I thought having one in the classroom would also be best, but what if they are locked down and he is in art....he woudln't have the Epi. So I need to hash this out. I did get a from for him to carry it-NOT administer(which I would want, I DO NOT want him liable to administer)....so I am mulling that over. Hubby doesn't like him to carry it(what if he is playign football at recess etc...don't want it broke on him etc..) so that would mean the teacher would need to pass it from teacher to teacher etc...alot to think about!!
here is what I wrote the asst principal...
""XXXX, this is the only outline I am aware of that covers a good amount of topics and areas that need addressed for a 504 food allergy designation(I copy/pasted the entire outline for her). I would like to give you this as a reference, but I want to wait to fill in any details until I know for sure Jake is Eligible. I want to meet with the team to discuss specific accommodations because they are the experts of the school. In the meantime I will work through the outline and adjust where I see fit for Jake. I do know some areas of concern are the food in the classroom(snacks, parties, holidays), field trips, and the additional medicine packs. Let me know when you hear about his eligibility. Thanks so much for meeting with me yesterday. Chanda""
I sent it before reading about the "eligibility" wording. Thanks for all yoru help!!!
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Chanda(mother of 4)
Sidney-8 (beef and chocolate, grasses, molds, weeds, guinea pig & asthma)
Jake-6 (peanut, all tree nuts, eggs, trees, grasses, weeds, molds, cats, dogs, guinea pig & eczema & asthma)
Carson-3 1/2 (milk, soy, egg, beef and pork, cats, dog, guinea pig and EE)
Savannah-1 (milk and egg)
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