US Source for Nestle Canada peanut-free

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By Tabby on Mon, 11-07-05, 03:21

I hope I'm not repeating this info, but I didn't see it in a search of earlier posts.

I just came across a website for a store called "Halfpenny Books and More" in Ontario, Canada, that offers shipping of Canadian peanut-free Nestle products to the US (via another company in Ohio). Does anyone have any experience with them? It is a bit expensive--shipping is $12 (for up to 4 lbs). But it looks like an interesting option if you're really craving Smarties, Aero, Mirage, Coffee Crisp, or KitKat! (Hmm..last I checked, wasn't US-made KitKat safe for PA?)

Anyway, the address is:
[url="http://www.halfpennybooksandmore.com/peanut_free_chocolate.htm"]http://www.halfpennybooksandmore.com/peanut_free_chocolate.htm[/url]

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By on Mon, 11-07-05, 16:34

I've never heard of that web-site before, but looked through the information and spent nearly an hour wandering through allergy info sites. Cool [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

[url="http://www.candiansweets.com"]www.candiansweets.com[/url] is another place that you can order Canadian candy, and they have a page specifically for peanut free. You can compare the prices. (I live in Canada, so I've never used either company.)

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By erik on Mon, 11-07-05, 22:37

Quote:Originally posted by Tabby:
[b] (Hmm..last I checked, wasn't US-made KitKat safe for PA?)[/b]

US made Kit Kat chocolate bars are NOT safe. They are labelled as 'may contain peanuts'.

The only safe Kit Kat product in the USA is Kit Kat Bites, but always check labels as manufacturing conditions can change at any time.

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By gvmom on Mon, 11-07-05, 23:29

You can also get peanut safe Canadian Nestle candy from Panhandlepremium.com -- right now if you order a box of 48 or less the shipping is $2.95. I got mine in the same week that I ordered them in.

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By Tabby on Tue, 11-08-05, 00:27

Wow, thanks, gvmom, that is a great shipping price. I just ordered a box of 120 Nestle Mini Bars from Panhandle! It came to $30.90, but it should last a LONG time, considering we don't even have any kids [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

We've also been enjoying dark chocolate Hershey kisses you can get here in the US, but I'm excited for some variety.

Now I can resist ordering more Vermont Nut-Free Chocolates till the next special occasion.

I've never been such a big candy freak before, but since I am trying not to eat restaurant or bakery desserts anymore (too scary), it helps me feel less deprived to have a little piece of safe chocolate in my purse at all times!

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By gvmom on Tue, 11-08-05, 00:43

No problem. Give a review of the mini bars once you taste them -- I ordered Smarties, but am considering the the mini bars too. I am curious about AERO & coffee crisp. I think the Smarties taste like nestle crunch bar chocolate. They taste great in Sunbutter cookies (instead of Peanutbutter).

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By Mimom on Thu, 11-10-05, 12:06

Has anybody tried the Coffee Crisp? I was thinking of ordering the variety box. I have never had Aero either, but they look good.

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By DRobbins on Thu, 11-10-05, 13:26

Coffee Crisps are fantastic. I had them for the first time when one of the Canadians here kindly shipped a variety pack of Nestle Canada chocolate bars to me for Halloween several years ago. They're definitely my favorite candy bar, and it's frustrating that they aren't normally sold in the U.S. Believe me, you'll enjoy them.

--Debbie

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By ajgauthier on Thu, 11-10-05, 19:25

on the US Kit Kats...

they changed the labeling around about 2 years ago. It used to be "made on the same equipment as peanuts" and now it states "made in the same facility as peanuts"

I have not called to check and see what the proximity is to peanut-bearing equipment. The change implies that the regular Kit Kats are not made on the same equipment as the peanut butter Kit Kats.

But...Kit Kats are my all-time favorite chocolate snack. I've recently started to eat them again since the warning isn't a strict may contain or shared equipment. *My own personal comfort level* lets me eat items that are in the same facility as peanuts for NESTLE products since they seem to have good gradations and levels of warnings. For other manufacturers...I don't know if I'm comfortable. But for Nestle Kit Kats, I specifically am.

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By on Thu, 11-10-05, 19:50

Quote:Originally posted by Mimom:
[b]Has anybody tried the Coffee Crisp? I was thinking of ordering the variety box. I have never had Aero either, but they look good.[/b]

Coffee Crisp are delicious. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

And Aero - regular, dark, and mint are all good. I didn't particularly like the orange though. But then, I don't think there's any orange & choc blend that I like.

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By Tabby on Thu, 11-10-05, 20:03

Yay, my box of 120 mini-bars arrived today! I immediately ate a Coffee Crisp since that's the only kind in the box I hadn't tried before. YUM! It's like one of those wafer/creme cookies I remember eating as a kid (narrow rectangles with a slightly puckered surface, consisting of thin layers of wafers & creme), but with a milk chocolate coating. It doesn't taste very strongly of coffee. Love it! I think it might have a slight chemical aftertaste, but then, I knew when I ordered these that they weren't all-natural.

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By ajgauthier on Thu, 11-10-05, 22:44

...once all my vermont nut free is gone I'll have to try these Coffee Crisp and Aero everyone is talking about...

Adrienne

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By gvmom on Thu, 11-10-05, 23:41

Tabby -- drooling, just ordered my box - dying to try coffee crisp!

Adrienne -- why wait? Can one ever have too much chocolate?

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By erik on Fri, 11-11-05, 03:26

Quote:Originally posted by ajgauthier:
[b] *My own personal comfort level* lets me eat items that are in the same facility as peanuts for NESTLE products since they seem to have good gradations and levels of warnings. For other manufacturers...I don't know if I'm comfortable. But for Nestle Kit Kats, I specifically am.

Adrienne
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Hi Adrienne,

FYI- US Kit Kats are not made by Nestle.. they are made by Hershey/Reese. Thought I'd let you know.

In the rest of the world, Kit Kats are made by Nestle, but in the USA they are made by Hershey/Reese.

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By Mimom on Fri, 11-11-05, 13:14

Thank you for the info on the Coffee Crisp. They sound delicious. It looked to me like these are all tree-nut free also. Does anybody know if that is true?

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By ajgauthier on Fri, 11-11-05, 17:20

Erik - well yes...now that I look the USA Kit Kat is made by Hershey...interesting! But I also trust Hershey's labeling as well, so, my same comfort zone applies...I'm still gonna eat them as long as the label doesn't change back to 'same equip' or 'may contain'. Maybe I'll call them too on Monday for more info to post here.

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By Tabby on Fri, 11-11-05, 21:35

Correct, Mimom, there are no tree nuts (no nuts of any kind) in the Nestle peanut-free chocolates.

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By erik on Fri, 11-11-05, 22:26

Quote:Originally posted by ajgauthier:
[b]Erik - well yes...now that I look the USA Kit Kat is made by Hershey...interesting! But I also trust Hershey's labeling as well, so, my same comfort zone applies...I'm still gonna eat them as long as the label doesn't change back to 'same equip' or 'may contain'. Maybe I'll call them too on Monday for more info to post here.
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Hi Adrienne.. I also trust Hershey's labelling [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By erik on Fri, 11-11-05, 22:30

Quote:Originally posted by Mimom:
[b]Thank you for the info on the Coffee Crisp. They sound delicious. It looked to me like these are all tree-nut free also. Does anybody know if that is true?[/b]

Coffee Crisp are peanut-free and nut-free and are manufactured in a peanut-free/nut-free facility.

FYI- they contain shea nut oil, but this should not be a problem as shea nuts are a fruit (just like coconut is a fruit)

[i]Shea is a West African tree from the seed of which is extracted shea butter, which is used in cosmetics.

Traditionally in West Africa shea butter or vegetable butter are extracted from its fruit (called nuts) by crushing and boiling. This substance is edible. It is consumed in traditional cuisine and used in the chocolate industry as a substitute for cocoa butter.
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shea"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shea[/url]
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By ajgauthier on Fri, 11-11-05, 22:31

I'm interested to see what Hershey's says about the Kit Kats...only b/c they make Reese's Sticks which are PB Kit Kats. I'm surprised they aren't made on the same equipment! But, they aren't labeled as such, so maybe that is ON PURPOSE since they know that Nestle markets Kit Kats in the UK and Canada (and elsewhere?) as peanut free?

we'll see...can't call today it's Veteran's Day (most places closed and on paid holiday)

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By erik on Sat, 11-12-05, 04:08

Quote:Originally posted by ajgauthier:
[b] But, they aren't labeled as such, so maybe that is ON PURPOSE since they know that Nestle markets Kit Kats in the UK and Canada (and elsewhere?) as peanut free?[/b]

Hi Adrienne,

Nestle Canada does market regular Kit Kats as peanut-free/nut-free.

However, Nestle Canada does not guarantee that every product with the "Kit Kat" name is peanut-free.

For example, Nestle Canada sells a Kit Kat Chunky peanut butter. It is manufactured outside of Canada. Kit Kat Chunky caramel has the label 'may contain traces of peanuts'.

So even though Kit Kats aree generally safe in Canada, there are a few varieties here with (labelled well) that are not safe.

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By andromeda on Sat, 11-12-05, 16:52

here's another source for nestle canada candy in the u.s., plus they're actually located in the u.s. which means cheaper and faster shipping:

[url="http://www.panhandlepremium.com/"]http://www.panhandlepremium.com/[/url]

they also have a 'peanut free'page. i've ordered from them a few times and always been happy with the quick response. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By ajgauthier on Sat, 11-12-05, 18:49

(edited to say 'pardon for the momentary thread hijack')

hi Erik - I want to address your comments on shea...I know its been a long standing debate here, but for those who are tree-nut allergic, it's that mystery, "are TNA people allergic to shea nuts?"

I know you aren't TNA, but I am and through this board have done some research into "what is a nut" and I think Adele had posted this great article: Fruits Called Nuts [url="http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph8.htm"]http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph8.htm[/url]

which shows how nuts, seeds, and fruits are classified and mistaken for each other. We'll leave peanuts out of it since they are a legume. Back to ""nuts"", here are some examples:

True nuts: Hazelnut, Chestnut
Drupes: Pecan, Macadamia, Almond, Kukui, Water Chesnut,Walnut
Seeds: Brazil Nut

All of the above fall into different botanical families for the trees. That can be why some TNA folks are allergic to only particular families of "nuts/seeds" and not all tree "nuts/seeds". Coconut is obviously in the palm family and is a dry drupe. I am not allergic to coconut, it is more a fruit than a nut...but what we eat is the mesocarp layer. Coconut oil is made by grating the white flesh of the mesocarp layer to make coconut milk, then they let it sit and it ferments and the oil from the coconut milk rises to the top. They are not using the seed/nut at all. But...I am allergic to other drupes/seeds: almonds, walnuts, pecan, macadamia. I also have a sensitivity to hazelnuts.

That being said...the shea nut is *not* like coconut, it is more like the drupe family that almonds come from (peach family). And, shea oil is made from the nut of the fruit, not the flesh. Described ([url]http://wholesalenaturalbodycare.com/fixed_oils___butters.html[/url]), "The fruit [from a shea tree], similar to a small avocado, with a tasteful pulp contains a nut which kernel yields the precious butter by crushing." Almonds are also contained in a fleshy pulp w/ one seed, "The fresh, greenish fruit of an almond (Prunus amygdalus) contains the familiar one-seeded endocarp (unshelled almond)" I once had an allergist tell me that even though I could eat peaches, that I should stear clear of the pits...not get all curious, break it open, and have a taste. (like anyone would do that anyway...) Of note though, I get rashes if I use exfoliaters that use crushed apricot pits for the exfoliating agent.

I digress.

There is no allergy test that I can find for shea. However, I have skin contact reactions (hives) from products containing shea oil/butter. Since my research into what shea is and how it compares to the other drupes (which I am allergic to), I will steer clear of ingesting shea products. Shea oil is also unrefined, different than what we are used to with highly refined peanut oil (no peanut protein left). I will note though, that I have read elsewhere that those with latex allergy are cross-reactive with shea. I also have a minor latex allergy. So, it is unclear for my particular circumstance if my reaction to shea is from my TNA or latex allergy.

So, those with just peanut allergy probably don't need to be concerned with shea products. But, those with TNA should look into it and be aware that there could be cross-reactivity, in particular, if one is allergic to the drupe family of "tree nuts/seeds"

I didn't mean to get up on my box, I'm just informing since some on here are like me and are PA and TNA, and the botanical issues can sometimes be different for us TNA folks.

:-) Adrienne

so...no coffee crisp for me...(sniff, they sound spectacular)

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By Tabby on Sat, 11-12-05, 19:41

Thanks for the info, Adrienne--sorry if my answer about no tree nuts in the Nestle products was misleading to anyone. I never knew about Shea nuts. That is all very interesting about the different kinds of nuts. I still find the whole thing baffling. My allergy seems to cut across different families of nuts. On my last RAST test (2001), I scored a "4" for peanuts (legume) and a "2" for hazelnuts (true nut), cashews (drupe), pistachios (drupe), sesame. (This was on a scale of 0-6 with 6 being the most severe). Before being tested I had always eaten pistachios and sesame with no adverse effects so I kept on doing so. (At the same time, I HAVE reacted to hazelnuts and avoid them like the plague; they taste exactly like peanuts to me). I scored a "1" on peas and almonds, which I also continue to eat. I also have skin reactions to mango, which I notice on that site Adrienne provided is related to pistachio. All a bit bewildering. But sorry to get off topic! (BTW, When I say I continue to eat almonds and pistachios, that is only when I can find ones without any cross-contamination risk.)

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By gvmom on Mon, 11-14-05, 22:10

I'm not quite sure if I've said this but, PANHANDLEPREMIUM.COM rocks! I ordered my box of mini's on thursday the 10th - just got it today - and tasted my first COFFEE CRISP!!!! OMG --- YUM, YUM, YUM......

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