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That\'s So Raven on Family Channel

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By on Mon, 04-11-05, 22:28

Can you not sit down and watch TV with your children after dinner without something that just does not sit well with you (I mean, aside from your dinner)?

The kids watch Family Channel in the evening. Usually Lizzie McGuire and then That's So Raven. So, it's on. Now, Jess doesn't always watch but he was tonight.

It's a cook-off that the father is entered in and Raven is his assistant. They have mushrooms laid out on the counter (there are two chefs making the same thing) and the father says, "you're highly allergic to mushrooms, don't touch them" and then he throws them out.

Well, in a small food fight that ensues, the competitor's daughter throws mushrooms at Raven and they end up in the stuffing which she has to taste. She doesn't know that they're in there.

She disappears from the screen for a minute and comes back up with her cheeks swollen probably ten times their size and her hands swollen up the same as well. Her father says "this is worse than last time, we have to get you to the hospital".

She says to her father that she'll be okay, that she was fine last time in five minutes, and he wants to win the competition, doesn't he? And they go on to finish and win the competition with her all bloated (and her bloated hands actually help them win).

I know. I know. It's helps to educate. But it reminds me of that movie that we were posting about just recently where things are done in poor taste for comedic reasons.

I just ended up having to tell the kids that obviously that's not how we would deal with a reaction, that while she was completing the competition and dancing around she could very well have been dead.

Actually, I'm really quite ticked off. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By Darkmage on Tue, 04-12-05, 21:54

I know what you mean. They had a similar thing happen in the movie "Hitch". It just sits wrong with me to take a perhaps deadly thing and turn it into comedy.

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By katiee on Wed, 04-13-05, 16:47

Well Cindy, for what it's worth I sent them a short note and let them have it LOL. Hard to believe the lack of thought that goes in to some of these plots.

Here's the note I sent.

My children are huge That's So Raven fans! I was quite distressed, however, by a recent episode in which Raven suffers an apparent allergic (anaphylactic) reaction that was treated lightly and demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge to the dangers of anaphylaxis and the need to act promptly when faced with a reaction to a substance one is known to be allergic to.

Given your audience of young viewers (of which my anaphylactic child is one) you have a responsibility to ensure that accurate information is delivered, even in a comedic situation.

Someone should have called 911 for Raven and administered an epipen that she should have been carrying. No parent would put their desire to "win" over the life of their child.

Shame on you.

Take care,


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By mommyofmatt on Wed, 04-13-05, 19:18

ridiculous and incredibly irresponsible [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img]

Good letter KatieE!


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By on Thu, 04-14-05, 00:43

Thank heaven, katiee, to the rescue. Honestly. I was really angry with that episode. I don't care for the show to begin with (I can deal with Dizzy McGuire [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img] probably because of Robert Carradine [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] ), but the kids do enjoy watching it and I was so angry with that episode. But I didn't write.

Excellent stuff! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By katiee on Mon, 04-18-05, 20:39

Well what do you know! I received the following reply from the Family Channel:

Dear Kathie,

Thank you for your email. Your comments and concerns have forwarded to
Programming Department for review and we will get back to you with a
response shortly.


Michael Hearns
Customer Care Representative

I'll post if I hear from them again.


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By on Mon, 04-18-05, 20:42

katiee, excellent stuff, at least they responded period. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By katiee on Sat, 05-14-05, 20:08

Heard back from The Family Channel, not at all surprized by their "take" on it.


Thank you for taking the time to e-mail Family with your concerns regarding the episode of the comedy series That's So Raven entitled "Chef-Man and Raven," which aired on Family on Saturday, April 16, 2005 at 3:50 p.m. ET/PT. We value and appreciate your feedback and would like to take this opportunity to present you with our rationale for broadcasting this episode as part of our NonStop Weekend programming.

That's So Raven is a live-action comedy series targeted to children aged eight and up. The series makes frequent use of over-the-top physical comedy, including Raven's exaggerated reaction to eating a mushroom in the episode "Chef-Man and Raven." We understand that an allergic reaction is a serious matter, however, it is also our understanding that children are able to distinguish between humour and more serious or dramatic content when watching television programming. The scene in which Raven's hands and face swell up to gigantic proportions is intended to be solely comedic and in no way meant to educate or inform viewers on how to respond to an actual allergic reaction. We feel that children eight and up understand the comedic intent of this scene. That said, we encourage all parents to supervise what their children are watching on television - regardless of the time of day or the channel. This way, a child's caretaker or parent can supplement comedic content with factual information and engage the child in a dialog regarding issues that cannot be adequately broached via television.

Thank you again for your interest and for taking the time to voice your concerns.

Best regards,
Marcia Andreychuk
Manager of Communications
Family Channel

What do you think?


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By on Sun, 05-15-05, 04:21

katiee, it is 12:10 a.m. and I have been out of the house since 9:00 a.m. - totally exhausted dealing with a bunch of stuff, so can't respond properly now because it will be in babble speak.

My first take on what they wrote back to you? I don't care for it.

My PA son is older than 8. I'm not clear that he found the scene comedic in the least or that he would even feel that a LTFA is something to be made fun of.

I am thankful that I watched the episode with BOTH of my children, because, hey, my 7 year old daughter may very well have thought it was comedic. I had an extremely lengthy discussion with both children about how what was portrayed on the scene that day was not okay.

Does the show have a rating? I mean, I understand parents are supposed to monitor what their children are watching on TV, including kids' television shows, but the day I have to start watching That's So Raven every day to provide my parental input on the show is the day you can shoot me! Lizzie McGuire maybe (because of Robert Carradine), but not That's So Raven.

And, they have no intention in their shows to educate or inform?

As I said, I've had a heckuva day, so I can't think of other episodes of That's So Raven that *may* have been informative or educational in some way. I mean, it may very well be just a comedy. Comparing it to Lizzie McGuire, I do know that there are some positive discussions to be had about what happens with Lizzie and her two best friends and there is some education and information in the shows (along with the hundreds of dollars worth of clothing and jewels these almost teenagers are wearing to school each day [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img] )

I can remember seeing the one show recently where Raven's cousin comes to visit and she's a real braggy witch with Raven and as it turns out, the girl is so envious of Raven and tells her how lucky she is that she has grown up in the same house all of her life and how her height is marked on the doorway (or whatever). So, that was educational, in it's way.

But when it comes to a LTFA they can't or don't want to be or simply aren't "in it" to educate or inform.

I was extremely upset with the show that day, and I'll have to read their reply again tomorrow, but it's not cutting any ice with me right now.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By Gail W on Sun, 05-15-05, 13:57

The series makes frequent use of over-the-top physical comedy, including Raven's exaggerated reaction to eating a mushroom in the episode "Chef-Man and Raven." ... The scene in which Raven's hands and face swell up to gigantic proportions is intended to be solely comedic and in no way meant to educate or inform viewers on how to respond to an actual allergic reaction. [/b]

They clearly don't get it:
Raven's hands and face swelling up to "gigantic proportions" is NOT an "exaggerated reaction". To consider it 'exaggerated" under the guise of "physical comedy" is irresponsible and harmful.

It is also concerning that Raven did not go to the hospital but instead she and her Dad opted to stay for the event...

[This message has been edited by Gail W (edited May 15, 2005).]

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By Gail W on Sun, 05-15-05, 14:00

Maybe FAAN would actually be of help re: Raven:


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By on Fri, 08-10-07, 15:05

Well, sitting here within the past week, I just saw a re-run of this stupid stupid episode. Had the discussion with my kids again. I thought they could at least have taken it out of rotation, but if their only intention is to be humourous and not education, I guess not. And 2 years later, I was still as offended as the first time I saw it.

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There but for the Grace of God, go I.

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By Mom2Ian on Fri, 08-10-07, 15:36

This is not a show that I have seen much of and I hadn

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By Amyd2007 on Fri, 08-10-07, 16:07

Will next week's episode feature hilarious hijinks with diabetic shock? Or maybe a giggle-inducing episode where Johnny the Down Syndrome kid screws up his book report yet AGAIN.

If the public really had a good handle on food allergies, I might be able to find more humor in it sometimes. But with public perception already being so off, this just rubs me the wrong way. Other disabilities seem to be off limits for mockery, so why not FA?

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By Kelly H on Tue, 09-11-07, 21:41

I was soo mad after watching that Raven episode that I wrote a letter to Disney about it. I told them that how can we expect kids/people to take our kids FA's safe if they watch **** like that on TV making fun of it. It's really sad. I never heard anything back from them and I found out that the other parents on my other group wrote them also.

Kelly H

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