reaction after Burger King

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By mcmom on Thu, 05-18-06, 02:27

My PA/TNA six year old has only had two reactions ever - when he was 11 months, the first time he tried pb, and a few months later to peas )which he had eaten before, but the PA triggered the allergy). We are extremely vigilant, but we do take him to both Burger King and Wendy's. In all these years, we've never had a problem at either place - he alway gets the same thing, nuggets, fries and a shake.

Took him to BK the other day, he ate his fodd and just had some of his shake, asked me to save it in the refrigerator. I took him out to have his team baseball pic taken. He of course was playing with the other kids there, but no one was eating anything. At one point he did look a little pale, but he said he was fine.

We got home and he took his shake out and finished it, then I put him in the bath tub. A few minutes later he called out that he was getting hives - they were on both hands and feet, and one on his cheek. He was shivering quite a lot. I took him out and gave him Benedryl, and sat with him in bed. The hives cleared up right away.

Did he react to the shake? If so, why didn't he react to it earlier? I plan on calling the BK tomorrow to see if they have changed ingredients. I saw the girl make the shake myself, it came right out of the machine. I hate to have to take one of the few places we can get something to eat away, but how can I feel safe ever giving him anything there again? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

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By joeybeth on Thu, 05-18-06, 03:38

hmmmmmm....we don't get our kids shakes at burger king (although they do eat the other food there) but i can't remember why we don't let them have the shakes. i'm not sure if we found out they weren't "safe" or we just assumed there could be a problem. we do still let the girls eat frosties from wendys. could your child have had some sort of reaction to the soap or something? my girls always get wacky spots when in the bath...used to seem it was from cold water getting on them. not sure why that was. could you have other food allergies going on? my girls, for example, are both allergic to peanut, wheat, soy and egg (though the peanut allergy is our only major one these days...the other three have abated to a large degree, only causing minor skin irritation as far as we know). hope you figure out what caused the hives and such. i would check whether or not the bk ice cream that they make the shakes from is "may contain" or "processed in...." for example, we used to let the girls have shakes from hardees until we read the fineprint on their drivethru sign one day which says something to the effect that the ice creams they use to make the shakes "may" be made in a facility that also used peanuts as an ingredient in some of their ice creams.

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By Daisy on Thu, 05-18-06, 04:14

Hives on hands and feet. Possible contact reaction? What was his previous reaction like? Ask the manager if, off the record, it would be at all possible if someone has been eating peanuts at work.
Also, could be a contact reaction from the other kids he was playing with. They really seem to *wear* their food. What ever happened to washing your face/hands *after* eating?
Any environmental allergies? The grass pollen has been terrible here!
Hope he's feeling better. Glad it was a mild reaction. You're doing a great job if it's been this long without a reaction. Keep up the good Mothering!
Daisy

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By sebastian on Thu, 05-18-06, 04:16

My DD had a severe anaphylactic reaction at Burger King when she was about 2 years old...she had eaten there many times before as well. (She is PA/TN and shellfish allergic)
She had the chicken and french fries. The weird part was that night she had only taken one bite of the chicken and wouldn't touch it after that.
Well about 1 1/2 hours later I am injecting her with epi and giving benadryl. Needless to say we avoid BK!
I hope your son is feeling better soon!

Shelley

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By TNAmom on Thu, 05-18-06, 15:41

Any chance it might have been the grass, if he was barefoot at all, or rolling around playing? Both my daughter and I get itchy red skin if we crawl around in grasses.

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By starlight on Thu, 05-18-06, 16:53

I used to get hives from cold water. I never used to be able to go in a swimming pool or stay in the bathtub too long. When he was shivering and developed the hives, how warm was the water?

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By lmw on Thu, 05-18-06, 17:27

DD sometimes gets hives on her hands from her iced Starbucks/iced capps. Sometimes at the pool too, and occaisionaly in the winter. Don't know why hives would be hands and feet, if cold-induced though.

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By attlun on Sat, 05-20-06, 00:19

My ds has developed hives in plain bathwater a few different times before.

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By mcmom on Mon, 05-22-06, 02:28

Thank you all for your replies!

I haven't been able to get in touch with the BK manager by phone yet(and it was my other son's birthday, so was busy running around doing party stuff) so I plan on going down there in person tomorrow.

He does have other food allergies, but nothing that would have been in a shake, unless they have recently changed their ingredients. He does have the frosties at Wendys too with no problems.

wrt the bath water - it was decently warm, and it was a very warm night, which is why the shivering alarmed me.

He's not been prone to stray hives before - and these looked like "reaction hives" to me - hands and feet were all red and covered, and he was *very* itchy. His only previous reactions both involved immediate hives and vomiting. It did occur to me that one of the other kids may have had something on his hands - but I was watching him really closely (because it was muddy out and he was going to have a picture taken, I didn't want him to get dirty) and didn't really notice him getting *too* close with anyone. And would a contact reaction involve areas he didn't touch anything with (his feet?)

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By starlight on Mon, 05-22-06, 03:32

Since the water was warm, have you or anyone else in the house switched bath products recently? I think I read here once someone's kid reacted to the residue left over in the tub from the mom's soap or shampoo.

What other FA's does he have?

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By mcmom on Mon, 05-22-06, 03:53

Quote:Originally posted by starlight:
[b]Since the water was warm, have you or anyone else in the house switched bath products recently? I think I read here once someone's kid reacted to the residue left over in the tub from the mom's soap or shampoo.

What other FA's does he have? [/b]

No new bath products - just the same Ivory soap as always.

He is PA, TNA, soy, sesame, legumes, mustard.

The fact that it was his hands and *feet* - I have a lot of environmental allergies, and years ago I used to sometimes break out on *my* hands and feet....now in hindsight it may have been some kind of food reaction. That's what makes me suspect his was a food reaction too.

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By Ponderosa on Mon, 08-14-06, 20:00

My son is allergic to peanuts and tree nuts. He had a reaction last week immediately following a Burger King chocolate shake. I'm guessing that was the problem for your child as well.

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By starlight on Tue, 08-15-06, 00:19

Quote:Originally posted by mcmom:
[b] He is PA, TNA, soy, sesame, legumes, mustard.
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I completely forgot I was following this post until it got reraised.

Sesame? Soy? Mustard? I'm sorry to be a bearer of bad news, but if your son never reacted to any of these before, this reaction could definately have been his first. It sounds like Burger King would be a serious biohazard for him. There are sesame seeds on the tops of the buns, which then get everywhere. All the burgers have soy. The chicken tenders and fries are made in the same fryer as items with soy (because all the other chicken at BK has soy). There's a chart at [url="http://www.bk.com/"]http://www.bk.com/[/url] under Nutrition then Allergens that has this info.

So I'm willing to bet, if it was a food reaction, it was to the nuggets or the cup the shake was in. Since everything has soy/sesame, if they touched your sons cup without washing their hands, then your son drank from it then touched his food, the protein would be transfered.

I imagine the only way to be completely safe at a BK with soy and sesame allergies (at least with the chicken tenders) is to make sure the employees wash their hands, then drain the oil out of the fryer and use new oil, and cook the chicken tenders in a clean basket alone. Otherwise the chicken tenders would be cross-contaminated with soy.

If you did have them do all this, then I haven't got a clue. But otherwise I'm willing to bet it was a reaction to another one of his allergens, not peanuts or tree nuts. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

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By PerthPeanut on Tue, 01-02-07, 15:06

My daughter is allergic to peanuts, tree nuts, pistachio, macadamia, cashews, shellfish, sesame seed, poppy seed, mandarine and coconut. My guess in relation to your child is contact with sesame seeds! It doesn't take much for the Burger King employee to grab a burger [touch the sesame seeds] then grab a cup [to put your milkshake in] and have a transfer of the allergen from one item to another. We avoid the place [it's called Hungry Jacks down under!] now as it's just not worth what happens with a reaction.

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By Andy'sMom on Tue, 01-02-07, 19:24

My ds has MFA's as well. He's 1yr and hasn't eaten at any fast food restaurant but we have brought him with us while we eat. We've noticed that just being in some fast food places he has reactions while in others he doesn't. It didn't make much sense to me at first but my DH realized it was the restaurants where there were sesame seeds that he reacted at. Sesame seeds are hard to keep contained. We avoid any fast food with DS now and don't allow food with sesame in the house. My bet is here for your sons reaction although the soy seems likely as well.

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By Claire on Wed, 01-03-07, 02:35

One of the things that I am wondering about is that you say your child was in the tub. Is there any chance there was a nut product in the soaps or anything you were using.
Also the girl that made your shake could have touched nut products and not washed properly. She herself could have eaten something on a break and contaminated your shake. Maybe not the shake but something I always worry about. What if she herself touched a PB sandwich first.
I don't know it is just crazy stuff I think about all the time.
Is there a chance your child is getting a dairy allergy?
Good luck and glad he is ok. CLaire

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By McCobbre on Thu, 01-04-07, 05:58

Quote:Originally posted by PerthPeanut:
[b]My daughter is allergic to peanuts, tree nuts, pistachio, macadamia, cashews, shellfish, sesame seed, poppy seed, mandarine and coconut. My guess in relation to your child is contact with sesame seeds! It doesn't take much for the Burger King employee to grab a burger [touch the sesame seeds] then grab a cup [to put your milkshake in] and have a transfer of the allergen from one item to another. We avoid the place [it's called Hungry Jacks down under!] now as it's just not worth what happens with a reaction. [/b]

I think I can vouch for this as of today. I was so excited to have a veggie burger at a BK near my office--to see how they came out so I could tell PA vegetarian DS (see BK thread in restaurant board about my quest for a safe veggie burger for DS). So I had one and had them substitute the bun. Really, this BK was clueless. I did drive through, and there was no Morningstar Farms sign on the drive through sign as I've now seen at other BKs. And they couldn't tell me if it was Morningstar Farms. And when I asked for a different bun, I was met with resistance at first.

I did get a non-sesame laden bun (it has corn meal on it instead). But an hour or so afterward I started to feel spacey--my first symptom after an ingestion reaction. Unless it was xc with shellfish (shouldn't have been), it was sesame xc. Ugh.

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By ajgauthier on Thu, 01-04-07, 20:58

you know - in November I had a weird reaction after eating at Burger King for dinner. I was on the road to Pasadena and stopped at Burger King for dinner. I am PA, TNA, and have a slight sesame sensitivity...BTW I eat McD's sesame seed buns with no problems at all.

So - I eat around 7pm, get to the hotel, fall asleep...wake up in the morning with bad eczema-like rash all up my neck, side of my face, and behind ears. I haven't had eczema since I was 4 years old!

Now --- I didn't use hotel soap, I brought my own pillow/case, etc. I ruled out reacting to bedding and towels at the hotel b/c I didn't react again through the whole 10 days...just that one night/morning. It cured all up with benadryl lotion.

It *could* have been the sesame...but I eat McD's sesame seed buns with no problems. Maybe BK uses peanut/nut tainted sesame seeds? Who knows ---

I stay away from BK now...

Adrienne

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By momll70 on Thu, 02-01-07, 15:27

I stay away from BK and I don't have any proof of what is in their food or anything but I think my sister may be getting sensitive to nuts/peanuts and one day she had BK (the time they changed their oil - don't know what they were using) she had the fries and started to break out in tiny hives around her mouth. That was enough for me not to trust them. My sister is also in denial that she may be allergic to peanuts/nuts. I tell her to be careful all the time. I think she should get tested.

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