Reaction 1hr after Vaccine

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By Andy'sMom on Sun, 01-21-07, 03:30

Took DS to the doctor for well check Friday. It was a fairly normal visit other than explaining to ped that we took DS to an allergist without his help. Don't think he appreciated. Oh well, DS is allergic to Cat Peanuts, Wheat, Eggs, Milk, and Sesame; suspect he's allergic to berries and kiwi; has outgrown Dog and possibly soy. The only shot that son got was his 4th DTaP vaccine. An hour later I showed up at a friends house, walked in and the dog licked DS (been around this dog many times), otherwise DS would not leave me. There were 2 other little boys who wanted to play but DS just wrapped himself around my legs and fussed, I thought he was being shy. One of the little boys was eating a twizzler (wheat allergy) but DS never touched or got near the boy. After about 5 minutes of this DS goes into total panic mode so I got down thinking I could calm him down and maybe introduce him so he could play (other boy is done with twizzler now), when I notice he has a quarter sized hive right next to his nose and two more GROWING underneath it. I immediately got the benedryl and gave him some and kept epi-pens close. I spent the next ten minutes watching hives literally appear and grow -rapidly- on his legs and face before they started to fade. There were no hives on his stomach and back. He was wearing pants so nothing touched his legs.
I called the pediatricians office and spoke with the nurse right after the hives started to fade. I told her I was concerned that it was caused by the vaccine. She told me that if he was going to have a reaction to the vaccine he would of before the fourth dose and if the benadryl doesn't work come in. (If the benadryl didn't work I would have gone to the hospital.) I headed home with DS thinking it was the dog or x-contamination from food.
Blotchy spots appeared 6 hrs later so gave benadrl and then again before bed. Today we have had no problems with hives. However...
DS got the vaccine in the leg. Last night I noticed that about a half inch away from the shot and to the inside of the leg DS started to develop a red spot. He's had eczema but it normally isn't an issue unless he gets into something he's allergic too. Even then it normally takes a few days to show. Today that red spot is RED and a little swollen. I don't think it's eczema I'm thinking it's from the shot.
I think yesterdays reaction was to the shot but it could have been the dog, something dog ate, or x-contamination. It seems like I did an awful job keeping an eye out on his allergies huh.
I've thought all day that I should call allergist but put it off because it's probably just food and he hasn't had any more hives. We have minor hive incidents about once a month. MFA's suck. I got online and find this.
[url="http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vaccine/side-effects.htm#dtap"]http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vaccine/side-effects.htm#dtap[/url]
"These problems (side effects) occur more often after the 4th and 5th doses of the DTaP series than after earlier doses. Sometimes the 4th or 5th dose of DTaP vaccine is followed by swelling of the entire arm or leg in which the shot was given (up to about 1 child in 30)."
Seems like the nurse didn't have her facts straight.
Do I call my allergist now or wait till morning? I'm almost positive he has an answering service.
I'm so freaked out. I know he didn't stop breathing and that it wasn't much worst than hives but I have never seen hives appear and GROW like that. I was really afraid that this would be "The One" where I would have to use the epi-pen.
Why can't anything be easy?
~Jessie

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By Carefulmom on Sun, 01-21-07, 03:58

I would bet the dog food had peanuts in it. We don`t have a dog, but there are others on this board whose kids have had reactions this way. Or since your ds is MFA, it could have been something else in the dog food. Sad that a child cannot even let a dog lick him without having to worry about a reaction.

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By josh'smom on Sun, 01-21-07, 22:58

My husband with no allergies gets a huge red lump whenever he gets a vaccine. He is in the military so it is more often. I have seen the lump the size of a baseball and hot and swollen. Takes about a week to go away. Also, my son gets a large red lump where the shot was given. It also took about a week or 2 to go away. I hope your little one is feeling better.

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By donnag on Sun, 01-21-07, 23:06

Quote:Originally posted by Andy'sMom:
[b]Took DS to the doctor for well check Friday. It was a fairly normal visit other than explaining to ped that we took DS to an allergist without his help. Don't think he appreciated. Oh well, DS is allergic to Cat Peanuts, Wheat, Eggs, Milk, and Sesame; suspect he's allergic to berries and kiwi; has outgrown Dog and possibly soy. The only shot that son got was his 4th DTaP vaccine. An hour later I showed up at a friends house, walked in and the dog licked DS (been around this dog many times), otherwise DS would not leave me. There were 2 other little boys who wanted to play but DS just wrapped himself around my legs and fussed, I thought he was being shy. One of the little boys was eating a twizzler (wheat allergy) but DS never touched or got near the boy. After about 5 minutes of this DS goes into total panic mode so I got down thinking I could calm him down and maybe introduce him so he could play (other boy is done with twizzler now), when I notice he has a quarter sized hive right next to his nose and two more GROWING underneath it. I immediately got the benedryl and gave him some and kept epi-pens close. I spent the next ten minutes watching hives literally appear and grow -rapidly- on his legs and face before they started to fade. There were no hives on his stomach and back. He was wearing pants so nothing touched his legs.
I called the pediatricians office and spoke with the nurse right after the hives started to fade. I told her I was concerned that it was caused by the vaccine. She told me that if he was going to have a reaction to the vaccine he would of before the fourth dose and if the benadryl doesn't work come in. (If the benadryl didn't work I would have gone to the hospital.) I headed home with DS thinking it was the dog or x-contamination from food.
Blotchy spots appeared 6 hrs later so gave benadrl and then again before bed. Today we have had no problems with hives. However...
DS got the vaccine in the leg. Last night I noticed that about a half inch away from the shot and to the inside of the leg DS started to develop a red spot. He's had eczema but it normally isn't an issue unless he gets into something he's allergic too. Even then it normally takes a few days to show. Today that red spot is RED and a little swollen. I don't think it's eczema I'm thinking it's from the shot.
I think yesterdays reaction was to the shot but it could have been the dog, something dog ate, or x-contamination. It seems like I did an awful job keeping an eye out on his allergies huh.
I've thought all day that I should call allergist but put it off because it's probably just food and he hasn't had any more hives. We have minor hive incidents about once a month. MFA's suck. I got online and find this.
[url="http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vaccine/side-effects.htm#dtap"]http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vaccine/side-effects.htm#dtap[/url]
"These problems (side effects) occur more often after the 4th and 5th doses of the DTaP series than after earlier doses. Sometimes the 4th or 5th dose of DTaP vaccine is followed by swelling of the entire arm or leg in which the shot was given (up to about 1 child in 30)."
Seems like the nurse didn't have her facts straight.
Do I call my allergist now or wait till morning? I'm almost positive he has an answering service.
I'm so freaked out. I know he didn't stop breathing and that it wasn't much worst than hives but I have never seen hives appear and GROW like that. I was really afraid that this would be "The One" where I would have to use the epi-pen.
Why can't anything be easy?
~Jessie

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[This message has been edited by donnag (edited January 21, 2007).]

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By Andy'sMom on Tue, 01-23-07, 21:34

I just have to post a follow up on this. DS had hives again Sun. and Mon. I called the pediatrician and talked to the same nurse. I explained the lump on his leg and, again, that the hives might have been from the shot. She went on to tell me that BOTH of these things are completely normal and that I shouldn't be concerned about the hives even if it was from the shot! She brushed me off and, without so much as getting my DS's name, quite rudely said a quick good-bye and hung-up. I wasn't rude or pushy with her I simply told her what was going on and that I was concerned. That's it. From the time she started talking I didn't get another word in.
Come to find out through my mother I had an allergic reaction to the 4th DTaP myself and had the DT vaccine for the 5th one and no reaction. I want to keep this as a possibility for my DS. I also wanted it to be more than just my word when the time comes. Also, heaven forbid, if anything happens to me or my DH I want this in his records.
I called my allergist and they were very concerned, put it in his record (which is all I really wanted), and offered to make us an emergency appointment (which I didn't think was necessary).
I like the pediatrician, can't stand the way he runs his office. Ds's allergies are the one thing I want taken seriously. I really think it's time for someone new.

Edited to add thank you for the replies. I am going to have to be more careful around dogs. Also I never would have guessed that a red swollen area that large would be a "normal" side effect. That alone scared me.

[This message has been edited by Andy'sMom (edited January 23, 2007).]

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By Carefulmom on Tue, 01-23-07, 22:05

DTaP did not exist in the U.S. when we were children. It sounds like your mom might be confused. They had DTP back then. The point of the acellular pertussis (DTaP instead of DTP) is that it really decreases the likelihood of a reaction. You just want to be sure that you aren`t documenting something that didn`t happen (you could not have had a reaction to DTaP because it didn`t exist).

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By Corvallis Mom on Tue, 01-23-07, 23:15

Regardless... with that kind of family Hx, it might be a good idea (medically speaking) for your physician to see if your son's blood already has a sufficiently high titer to the pertussis component... that would remove any need to even consider continuing to vaccinate him with it.

It is frustrating when you feel like nursing staff taking/returning calls isn't really [i]hearing[/i] you, though, isn't it?

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By Andy'sMom on Wed, 01-24-07, 00:48

Carefulmom Thank you for letting me know that. I guess I'm kinda freaking out and not checking everything like I should. This afternoon DS developed a temp. of 103 under armpit, his chest is all congested, and he can hardly stop coughing. We go in to see same pediatrician tomorrow morning. I plan on speaking to him about his nurse at that appointment also. I don't like confrontations so we'll see how it goes.

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By Andy'sMom on Wed, 01-31-07, 03:22

One more follow up on this. Ended up taking DS to the ER before seeing the doctor. Turns out he had RSV. Scary stuff. Now my 2 month old neice has it. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] Anyways, spoke to doctor both before the ER and the following day. THE NURSE NEVER TOLD HIM DS HAD AN ALLERGIC REACTION!!! In fact he was upset that I didn't call to let him know. I told him that I had called twice and let him know I didn't care for his nurse or her attitude. Now I wonder about other calls I put in to him and never recieved a call back on, including other allergic reactions. Perhaps that's why he didn't think we needed to see an allergist in the first place. I never brought it up in our appointments because I assumed he knew and didn't think it was a big deal. (Did I mention I'm not good with conflict?) And after what I thought was him dismissing our first several reactions I didn't bother calling him at all. I plan on talking with him about my previous phone calls more when we see him next. I have his cell phone now so in the future I will just call him instead of dealing with the nurse, unless of course it's to make an appointment.
Corvallis Mom checking his titer level (not sure I stated that well) sounds like a really good idea. I will run it by the pediatrician and see if he is willing. By the time I'm done with him I bet he will be.

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