NestleCrunch Dark Stixx

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By selestejmp@nctv.com on Sat, 07-22-06, 07:08

On the exterior of the box of this product there is no warning. inside, the individual packets warn that they are peanuts in this product. Thank god i am careful to a fault! I did call Nestle today, they are sending me coupons........

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By joeybeth on Sat, 07-22-06, 07:45

i saw these and considered buying them for my girls (given that there was no warning on the outside of the package). glad i didn't. thank you! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By Kathy L. on Sat, 07-22-06, 15:20

Quote:Originally posted by [email]selestejmp@nctv.com[/email]:
[b]On the exterior of the box of this product there is no warning. inside, the individual packets warn that they are peanuts in this product. Thank god i am careful to a fault! I did call Nestle today, they are sending me coupons........

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Wow, thanks for the warning. I might have not read the packet after having already read the box! Coupons ought to make up for the oversight, you think?

Edited for typo!

[This message has been edited by Kathy L. (edited July 22, 2006).]

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By TeddyAlly on Thu, 08-17-06, 02:55

My hubby bought some tonight. I should really visit this forum more often. On the box mixed in the ingred. it listed peanuts..he bought a box of both the regular and the dark and both boxes (one said peanut oil and the other said peanuts) not in bold, no "allergy info" listed, just mixed in the ingred. I no longer trust ANY Nestle items!

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By seleste on Thu, 08-17-06, 07:13

i called nestle back, after i got the coupons, they said that if they listed them in the ingredients that it was up to us to see that. i pointed out that gold writing on brown paper without a warning extra was hard to see in the store. no, i will not trust their products again, they prefer to not list warnings along with the ingredients as some other companies do list warnings as well as listing ingredients.

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By TeddyAlly on Thu, 08-17-06, 13:21

I emailed them regarding their lack of proper labeling that puts our children in great danger. Will let you know what I hear back.

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By erik on Thu, 08-17-06, 14:30

Quote:Originally posted by TeddyAlly:
[b]he bought a box of both the regular and the dark and both boxes (one said peanut oil and the other said peanuts) not in bold, no "allergy info" listed, just mixed in the ingred. I no longer trust ANY Nestle items!
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Why do you not trust any Nestle items? It sounds like peanuts or peanut oil were in the ingredient list on both boxes of this product... so if they are labeling for it, why would you not trust them?

There is no danger, as people with PA would read the ingredient list prior to eating the product. I never eat any products without reading the labels.

A separate allergy alert notice is always nice, but I don't think it is necessary to have this in order to trust the manufacturer.

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By ajgauthier on Thu, 08-17-06, 14:48

Quote:Originally posted by erik:
[b] Why do you not trust any Nestle items? It sounds like peanuts or peanut oil were in the ingredient list on both boxes of this product... so if they are labeling for it, why would you not trust them?

There is no danger, as people with PA would read the ingredient list prior to eating the product. I never eat any products without reading the labels.

A separate allergy alert notice is always nice, but I don't think it is necessary to have this in order to trust the manufacturer.

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I agree with you Erik. I was pondering this for a minute though, about the expectations that people have these days about labeling. I think it's a "PA generational thing" --- you and I (and other adults here who grew up with PA) have lived our whole lives not relying on any warnings or allergen statements because they didn't really exist consistently until a few years ago. We grew up reading each word in the ingredient list carefully, like me probably going along with a finger underlining the word you are on. Just looking for those words about peanuts (or like me also tree nuts). And yes, I read the ingredient list every single time on every single item I pick up at the store, even if it's a regular item I buy each week.

It's nice now that sometimes I can take a quick glance and see an allergen statement and put the item back on the shelf. If there is no allergen statement, I then proceed to read the ingredient list word by word. Yes, sometimes there will be a surprise ingredient of peanuts thrown in there or pecans, and there won't be any allergen statement.

Honestly, that's perfectly legal, it's listed in the ingredients clearly, just like all the other ingredients are listed.

So, I don't mean to stoke anyone's fire here about labeling...I'm just relating my own perspective of living with the allergy for 30 years.

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By jtolpin on Thu, 08-17-06, 14:56

ditto ditto...

If the outside box didn't label out, but the inner label DID, then THAT is an issue.

But it doesnt sound like thats the case.

Reading and re-reading... get used to it (unfortunately).

And MANY times, have I 'read' ingredients, and MISSED something... sure. It happens.

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By TeddyAlly on Thu, 08-17-06, 15:18

I find it odd that you take this so lightly. Yes, it was listed on the box and I know some people only look for the Bold Print with allergens. That is not the manufaturer's problem, but with food allergies on the rise and the threat of taking lives, all Chocolates (because it is hard to find a "safe" chocolate) in my opinion should have the Bold Print on all of their major allergens. And with Nestle being such a Huge and widely recognized company, I just dont understand why they dont use the bold print...they do on May Contains, but not on things that do contain. Odd to me!

And if I miss something, it could take my daughter from me so I dont see it as "sure...it happens." And YES, I am used to reading and re-reading ingreds. If I wasnt, I probably wouldnt have caught that this product contained allergens. There are some people that do not read ALL the ingreds...those are the ones that I worry about. Would it really take too much of Nestle's time and money to add them in bold print? Visit their website..they are all about "health and wellness". Seems they would want to help out, help keep people well and safe. One way they could help is to add allergens in bold print.

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By erik on Thu, 08-17-06, 15:54

Quote:Originally posted by TeddyAlly:
[b]I find it odd that you take this so lightly.[/b]

I do not take my allergy lightly. I have been reading ingredient labels for over 35 years and take it very seriously. And reading ingredient labels has kept me safe.

My point was that you said you [b]did not trust[/b] the manufacturer because it did not use allergy alerts (even though it does list peanuts in the ingredient list), and I wondered why you would not trust a manufacturer that does label it's ingredients, as they sound trustworthy to me.

As Adrienne wrote, it is probably a generational thing, as people who have recently begun dealing with PA expect allergy alerts/bolding, while those of us dealing with it for 10, 20, 30+ years are used to dealing solely with the ingredient list and anything extra is an added bonus.

It would be nice if companies did bold allergens and add allergy alerts. And from what I have seen, more and more companies do that every day (Nestle Canada uses allergy alerts and bolds allergens, so maybe Nestle USA will follow their path soon)
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By jtolpin on Thu, 08-17-06, 16:52

"Sure it happens"

None of us are perfect. Accidents will happen. It's inevitable.

Caitlin had 2 licks (and one bite) of a popsicle with milk. We epi'ed her, and off to the ER we went.

Sure enough, at SOME point, she's gonna eat something with her allergens, and have a serious reaction. You bet. I'm accepting that as fate.

We're ready for it (AFAIK).

I dont take allergies lightly either, as have dealt with Caitlin's (for 6 yrs) and Ann's (DW) for 15+ (since I've known her).

But I also know, like you, to read labels all the time... I dont 'expect' bold face, or allergy statements, as Erik said.

I merely 'hope and pray' that the ingredient list is correct. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

And yeah... we could ALL lose our kids to eating an allergen (whether milk, peanut, or lobster...)

Conclusion: I shrug my shoulders at bold print or allergy statements... nice to have, but not 'necessary' or 'mandated' by the FDA... yet [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By ajgauthier on Thu, 08-17-06, 18:25

ditto to what Erik and Jason said.

I don't take my allergy lightly by any means. That is why I read the label if there isn't a warning, and, I read it carefully. Seriously, I run my finger under each line as read as to not miss a word/line. Pain in the butt? Yeah, but it's my life so I don't get my panties in a bunch over it.

Maybe it's different for adults who have PA and are capable of reading labels for themselves and are more responsible for their allergy than children are. Children sometimes need to rely on the adults they are with. My mom's favorite anecdote about my allergy from when I was young is that I could read labels and find the "peanut" and tree nut words with 100% accuracy by the time I was 4. If I was with adults or over a friends house, before food crossed my lips I would have the adult read outloud the label to me...I would not trust them to read it to themselves. Boy, was I a pain! But I will say I never had a reaction from pre-packaged food! Really, never.

Anyhoot - a lot of this "taking lightly" or "taking more seriously" may also have to do with children or adults with PA and the different comfort levels of the parents/adults.

I expect companies to label for peanut/tree nut/allergen ingredients - whether that it is listed in the actual ingredients or it comes in the form of a 'may contain' or 'processed on the same equip as' warning...I don't care. Just as long as it's listed somewhere visible.

And to touch on another thread running...I've learned to flip the box/item over and see if there are warnings added on another part of the box separate from where the ingredients are. That miffs me some, but really I need to shrug it off or else I'd be walking around angry/resentful all the time...who needs that? It's not healthy for the psyche!

[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Adrienne

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