more on \"intimate issues\" and PA

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hi all,

Last week I wrote a letter to Dr. John Weisnagel (Peanut Allergy, Where do we stand? [url="http://www.allerg.qc.ca/peanutallergy.htm)"]http://www.allerg.qc.ca/peanutallergy.htm)[/url]
which covers some topics that a few parents are talking about in the Main Discussion board. I'm referring them here since it's adult content.

It's something all sexually active adults with PA or TNA or any fatal food allergy need to consider. Moreover, it's something the parents on here need to be aware of so at the right time in the future they can make their children aware too.

My letter, "Some adults on the board (including myself) have had experiences where, to the best of our knowledge and assumptions, we have determined that we have had an allergic reaction to a boyfriend/husband's sweat and semen. Of
course, most of us have had hives from kisses on skin if the partner had a peanut food earlier in the day, sometimes even after toothbrushing or washing up. But, the theory behind the sweat and semen is that the peanut protein is metabolized and excreted through the man's body in a way where it still triggers a reaction in the
female PA person. I have an experience where I reacted to semen (skin contact in my privates), only to question my boyfriend who had a Snickers bar that day and also the day before. Another woman on the
board swears she reacts to her husband's sweat and has tested the theory over time.

My question to you is this: Can the peanut protein be metabolized and secreted in sweat, semen/vaginal fluid? Have you heard of any studies? No one ever really believed me that I could have a reaction from a
kiss, let alone any bodily fluids." End Adrienne's letter

Dr. W's response, "Dear Mme Gauthier:
When I first rec'd your e-mail, I had never thought of someone reacting to body sweat or semen. There had been scattered reports in the past of women having an allergic reaction to their partner's semen, and if I remember correctly, the reaction would be a local, skin reaction. I've never used, and don't know if suppliers of allergy diagnostic testing materials have a test available for semen allergy. If you go to Google and inquire about 'semen allergy'
[url="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=semen+allergy&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8"]http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=semen+allergy&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8[/url]
you'll be surprised at what you find. It seems there are women allergic to the components in the semen, and they're listed, in one of the sites.
Getting back to your question about women, allergic to peanuts or nuts reacting to semen from a man having eaten peanuts a few hours before intercourse, or having a reaction from contact with his sweat, it is possible. It is analogous to a breast-fed baby reacting to milk proteins if the nursing mother consumes milk or milk products. Testes and sweat glands are glands just like the mammary glands and can contain food proteins. I've never read any study about this; I spoke to a colleague, allergist, this morning and he had the same answer.
Thank you for your comments about my peanut allergy article.
John Weisnagel, M.D. "

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While it still doesn't give us a *time frame* it is nice to have the specialists agreeing with us. Maybe it's something they will think about doing eventually.

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yeah, part of my point to email him was because he is well known as PA-allergy specialist...so now he knows a big concern for us adults with PA...who knows what will come of it!

Adrienne

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Thanks Adrienne! You rock! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] I appreciate reading a well respected allergist's opinion. And when I catch your posts, I really appreciate your insight [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] Meg

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I've had more than just a localized skin reaction . . . let's just say that there's absolutely no oral sex if soy has been consumed ANY time in recent history.

Way to put a damper on romping.

ygg

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Maybe someone can start a PA matchmaking service. That way you know your sweetie will absolutely be PN-free!

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Adele, if you could figure out a way to get Joshua Jackson (Pacey from Dawson's Creek who is also PA) to sign up for the PA matchmaking service, I'd be all for it [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

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Quote:Originally posted by Adele:
[b]Maybe someone can start a PA matchmaking service. That way you know your sweetie will absolutely be PN-free![/b]

great idea! but I still like my PA as a "relationship litmus test" Really lets me know where the guy is standing if he can give up peanuts or not.

Adrienne

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ygg, do you know how long after your husband ate soy that you reacted to it?

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I've reacted up to three days later. In the beginning, I reacted within hours.

I won't let him get near me if he's had it within three days now. A week for anything not involving a condom. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

needless to say, he's pretty much soy-free.

ygg

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I would love to be able to talk to a metabolic medical researcher and find out how long it takes peanut protein (or other allergen) to go through the system and show up in bodily fluids like saliva, sweat, and other secretions. And, also how long it hangs about.

Maybe I can find something on Medline. I work at a University and they subscribe to everything.

That being said, I'm not a very physical person with men unless it's in a monogamous relationship --- and by that point I've made the "peanut free" speech so I'm not too concerned. Geez, as I get older I get more and more prudish!

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I think this discussion sort of ties in with bi-phasic reactions. How long after the initial reaction (or ingestion of allergen) have people been known to have bi-phasic reactions? It must still be in your system for you to react to it the second time, right?

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[url="http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/content/full/170/3/344"]http://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/cgi/content/full/170/3/344[/url]

didn't know where else to put this.

General Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form. I do not guarantee the accuracy, currentnenss, or content of the link in this post.

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Excellent article MB.

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...now...if only we could get someone in the medical community to get a grant, and have men and women eat peanut butter, and then test their body fluids at intervals up to 1 week after consuming the peanut butter, to see the varying levels of peanut protein in said bodily fluids.

Adrienne

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