Kraft Philadelphia Cream Cheese (Canadian Specific)

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By Chris PeanutAllergy Com on Mon, 02-11-02, 00:53

Author Topic: Kraft Philadelphia Cream Cheese (Canadian Specific)
Cindy Spowart Cook
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posted January 23, 2002 10:45 AM
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Here is a copy of the e-mail I received from Kraft Canada re Philadelphia Cream Cheese.
I contacted them through their website at [url="http://www.kraftcanada.com"]www.kraftcanada.com[/url]
From :
Kraft Kitchens Canada
To :
"'cin42ca@hotmail.com'"

Subject :
General Inquiries

Date :
Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:40:35 -0500

Thank you for your recent e-mail.

The PHILADELPHIA Cream Cheese is produced in the same manufacturing facility
as the KRAFT Peanut Butter. However, the peanut butter manufacturing area
is in a completely isolated area of the plant with a dedicated team of
workers as well as distribution system for raw materials and finished
product. If there is a risk of cross-contamination of allergens, then this
by law must be labelled on the packaging. If peanuts is not indicated in
the ingredient listings, then it will not be within the product. I hope
this helps.

Please visit us again soon.

REF#: 15536677-1

Kraft Kitchens Canada
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Re: Philadelphia Cream Cheese
I am the mother of a 6 year old child who has a deadly peanut allergy.
There is much debate currently going on (again) re the safety of Kraft
Philadelphia Cream Cheese for individuals with peanut allergies. I am
wondering if you could let me know if the cream cheese is produced in a
facility whereby it could possibly be cross-contaminated with peanut
products, or, if it is, in fact safe (as labeled) for PA individuals to
consume. Thank-you for your time and consideration.

And, of course, you can tell that's my initial inquiry at the bottom. I'm not clear how most people would read this response, but I do think from their answer it comes down to a "comfort zone" decision.

Best wishes!

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Sandy
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posted January 25, 2002 12:18 PM
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Cindy,
My son is extremely severe to peanuts but I give him P.Cream Cheese. I didn't know that it was made in the same plant as peanut butter!! He has been eating it for years. We haven't had any problems. We always keep it in the fridge.
Sandy
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smack
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posted January 25, 2002 05:47 PM
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Cindy,
I use P.cream cheese all the time. I am not about to make cream cheese but for those that want to try...knock yourself out.
I feel confident that if a product is made on a dedicated line,( and believe me reg.cream cheese is a big seller), then the chance of cross-contamination is very remote.

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Emmie
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posted January 26, 2002 06:29 PM
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Cindy,
Thanks for your help. I should have mentioned that I was in the U.S. when I posted. Unfortunately - no dedicated lines here.

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Cindy Spowart Cook
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posted January 26, 2002 06:42 PM
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Emmie, no need to apologize. There has been a long debate on this board about the status of cream cheese and I'm not sure that it was only in the U.S. I do know that I had read about cream cheese when I first became a member and yet it never really got sorted out, for me.
So, that's why I finally contacted Kraft. And still, from what you read from them above, it definitely is a "comfort zone" thing. Many PA parents would not feel comfortable having their child consume something that was made in the same facility as Kraft Peanut Butter. I'm okay with it, for the time being, only because I haven't had reason to tighten up on that part of my "comfort zone" (i.e., my son having a reaction).

I just think it's really important when we do have a debate that we do check out both American, Canadian, and other countries divisions of the companies to see what they're saying. So, again, no need to apologize. It was information I needed to see for myself to understand why cream cheese was an issue and can now well understand why it was or could be.

Best wishes!

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katiee
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posted January 28, 2002 12:56 PM
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Hi Cindy,
Wade developed hives the last time he ate P Cream Cheese. Coud it have been something else? Maybe but given that the also manufacture PB in that plant it just makes me think that the chance is always there for cross contamination. We no longer use it and switched to Lactancia (they only make plain Cream cheese, no other kinds).

A line in the e-mail you received from Kraft really jumped out at me....the part where the rep said that if there was ANY chance of cross contamination then by law it would have to be declared...I seem to be running in to more and more companies that tell me otherwise. I can name two for example just off the tome of my head.

1- Janes (manufacturer of frozen chicken & fish products and)

2- Cavendish (manufacturers of frozen coated french fries).

I contacted bothe these manufacturers recently to enquire about the safety of their products. Bear in mind that there was no "may contain" warning on the products I called about.

I was told that although they have a "peanut free plant" they could NOT gurantee the safety of the manufacturer of the breading/coating used on the products. They came from companies that have peanut or peanut products in their manufacturing facility.

So OK, if they are required "by law" to indicate if there is ANY chance of cross contamination, why then are these Canadian manufacturers getting away with it? What would happen if someone ate these products and reacted? Would they be liable?

Makes me kinda mad that we have to call everyone just to make sure it is safe!

What do you think?

Katiee (Wade's mom)

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smack
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posted January 28, 2002 02:05 PM
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Katiee,
Utterly ridiculous! If the food has been manipulated then there should be a warning label on the product.
What a mess the Food industry is in! They on one hand go through the trouble of making a product on a nut/free line, then use a coating perhaps from another company that's product could have come in contact with nuts?
Boy oh Boy, I have to call now to find out where these coatings are made.
I'll let you know if I find anything out.
BTW- I will now use Latancia, I like their butter, and if they only make one kind of cream cheese I feel even safer using that.
Actually, I just called Cavendish and Joan is going to call me back with a number of the place who makes the coatings on the battered foods.
I'll let you know what I find out.

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redtruck
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posted January 30, 2002 04:58 PM
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Actually, Kraft miswrote that letter.
The law in Canada states that all ingredients must be clearly labelled. This does not however mean that a possible cross contamination from unclean lines or peanuts in the same facility needs to be written into the ingredients! The day we get to that point will certainly be a day of celebration and a day of hard decision making for all of us!
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Cindy Spowart Cook
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posted February 02, 2002 01:10 AM
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I think based on Kraft's response to me and also from what I read in this thread, I purchased the Lactantia cream cheese to-day when I went shopping. I've always loved Lactantia butter (as someone else mentioned) and their margarine so why not? I have yet to contact them though to see what their manufacturing is like.
Somehow I just feel more comfortable that it isn't made in the same factory as pb, even though we have never had any problems with it.

Best wishes!

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Patricia
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posted February 02, 2002 07:50 PM
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Newbie here! I just registered as I have a question to post but saw this topic and my blood pressure shot up.
My daughter has a peanut allergy and must avoid all nuts.
There are very few products that I will purchase from Kraft. One of the last ones to come off my list was the cream cheese. Lactanctia has my business. I have never fully trusted Kraft. I am responsible for my daughter's well being yet Kraft tells me to trust their cleaning policies - maybe in a perfect world they will get every last bit of contaminate out of every last corner of the line but there is no way I will give my child chocolate pudding made on the same line as the pistachio pudding. And why, do I as a consumer, have to drag the information out of them? The last time I talked to a rep from Kraft, he said that he didn't have his map on him but he was pretty sure the Handi-Snacks (some contain pb) were made in the same room as the cream cheese. Why take all the precautions (separate ventilation etc) for the peanut butter and then bring it in anyways? He said the lines were about 10m apart. Big deal! Has anyone been to the Smith Falls Hershey plant (I am Canadian)?!! I would not buy anything from that plant even if they say it is a peanut/nut-free line. So when the rep says don't worry and the only plant I've seen is Hersheys, I worry. Whether he was right or not, I don't take the risk with Lactantia around.
Does everyone know that Kraft bought Nabisco (that is Nabisco, Christie, Peak Freans, Primo) and that Nabisco is supposed to take up Kraft's policy of no [voluntary] "May contain" statements. I cried. They are also shifting products around. The Nabisco family of products was/is my world - 1-800 number, great staff, may contain statements, products in so many categories... I don't trust Kraft and now I can't trust Nabisco? The Nabisco rep said, "Oh, no, we'll keep our policy" and the same day Kraft told me "Oh, no they won't". I wrote an email to Anaphylaxis Canada, got a reply that it was being passed up the ranks but that was it. I should call Nabisco again to see where things are at. Watch the labels! You could pretty much trust a Nabisco product if it did not contain peanuts and did not have a "May contain statement". Now it is one big mystery to me.
Saw on the news this week that E.D Smith was just bought - another company I trust. I hope things don't change there too.
On the wave of dealing with food allergies, I'm at a low right now. Totally stressed. Thanks for the vent.

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pat
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posted February 03, 2002 06:56 PM
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Does anyone know about Breakstone cream cheese?
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By Chris PeanutAllergy Com on Mon, 02-11-02, 00:57

Cindy Spowart Cook posted 02-05-2002 11:40 AM ET (US)
pat, while we're talking about different varieties of cream cheese (or manufacturers thereof), I saw another brand the other day as well. Astro.
As I say, I purchased the Lactantia, but I've yet to contact them to see what their manufacturing process is like.

Patricia, welcome!

Best wishes!

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By on Wed, 02-13-02, 04:26

Chris, thanks for saving this thread! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

I just tried to e-mail Lactantia through their website at [url="http://www.lactantia.ca"]www.lactantia.ca[/url] (since I just finished the container of cream cheese tonight [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] ) and all I got was French and no "contact us" button.

Astro is on my list of other cream cheese manufacturers to contact.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By on Sat, 03-02-02, 06:22

I found at least one website for Lactantia in case someone else gets the opportunity to contact them re their cream cheese before I do. It's [url="http://www.parmalat.ca"]www.parmalat.ca[/url]

I thought I had another one as well but I'm leafing through Chatelaine half in the dark and can't find it right now.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By on Fri, 11-29-02, 19:19

Simply re-raising to compliment another re-raised thread. Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By on Wed, 10-22-03, 00:28

Simply re-raising to compliment cream cheese discussion currently going on. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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By on Wed, 12-03-03, 23:48

Simply re-raising for Riley's Mom. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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