Is Bisquick safe for milk allergy?

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By JacksonsMom on Sat, 04-07-07, 17:23

I have been using Bisquick to make pancakes for years and neither of my kids have ever had a problem with it. (DD is dairy and egg allergic)
I just noticed that the box is labeled with a U circled and a D next to it. I am always confused by the Kosher labelings, but doesn't that mean shared lines with dairy? The ingredients lists contains Wheat only. It is General Mills/Betty crocker so I always trust their labeling, but now I'm more confused than ever.
Do any of you dealing with dairy allergies have info? Thanks!

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By Momcat on Sat, 04-07-07, 18:47

I don't know much about Kosher labeling, but my kids never had a problem with it when they were allergic to dairy a few years back.

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By shoshana18 on Sat, 04-07-07, 19:47

bisquick is labeled kosher dairy because it is made on shared equipment with dairy products, not because there is any dairy product in the mix itself. (i am speaking of the bisquick original.)

it all depends on how comfortable you are with shared lines.

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By ccm'smom on Sat, 04-07-07, 20:18

How do you make pancakes with it? I thought the directions on the box say add two eggs? What do you substitute with?
Thanks!

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By Momcat on Sat, 04-07-07, 20:50

Here's my Bisquick pancake recipe:

2 cups Heart Smart Bisquick
1 3/4 cup plain soymilk
1/2 Tbsp Ener-G egg replacer mixed with
2 Tbsp water

olive oil spray

Preheat electric frypan to 350. Mix all ingredients with a whisk. Spray frying pan with olive spray and spoon batter onto pan. Turn pancakes when bubbles come to the surface and the edges look dry. Makes 16 medium pancakes.

Cathy

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By JacksonsMom on Sat, 04-07-07, 22:24

I am actually NOT comfortable with shared lines. I thought Gen Mills labeling was pretty reliable- so does that mean that they don't do an allergen wash? And not to offend anyone who is strict Kosher, but if there is a possibility of a trace of dairy in the product - isn't an allergy statement equally as important as a religious designation???
I don't get it.....now my whole 'comfort zone' is completely out of whack! Why on earth can't they just label something as made on dairy lines instead of the stupid little u circle D blah blah blah that only certain people understand???? Plain english would be nice. GRRRRRR

Sorry. I am ranting. But this is just another thing that really irritates me when it comes to trying to do the right thing.

My recipe for pancakes was similar to Momcats, except we avoid soy also. So I use 1 cup of apple juice and 1/2 cup applesauce to replace the milk.... Now I guess I'll be finding another recipe for pancakes that doesn't include Bisquick.

Thanks for your help everyone, and I apologize for freaking out.....

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By Naturemom on Sat, 04-07-07, 22:47

I'm not sure what is in Bisquick, but this is what I use.

white flour
whole wheat flour
sugar
salt
baking powder
margarine
soy bev

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By shoshana18 on Sun, 04-08-07, 02:35

Quote:Originally posted by JacksonsMom:
[b]I am actually NOT comfortable with shared lines. I thought Gen Mills labeling was pretty reliable- so does that mean that they don't do an allergen wash? And not to offend anyone who is strict Kosher, but if there is a possibility of a trace of dairy in the product - isn't an allergy statement equally as important as a religious designation???
I don't get it.....now my whole 'comfort zone' is completely out of whack! Why on earth can't they just label something as made on dairy lines instead of the stupid little u circle D blah blah blah that only certain people understand???? Plain english would be nice. GRRRRRR

Sorry. I am ranting. But this is just another thing that really irritates me when it comes to trying to do the right thing.

My recipe for pancakes was similar to Momcats, except we avoid soy also. So I use 1 cup of apple juice and 1/2 cup applesauce to replace the milk.... Now I guess I'll be finding another recipe for pancakes that doesn't include Bisquick.

Thanks for your help everyone, and I apologize for freaking out.....[/b]

it is POSSIBLE that they are getting the kosher dairy designation because of dairy in the facility, not necessarily on the same line. and as far as the cleaning process goes, it was not enough the get a kosher parve designation from the designating authority, which would indicate a product that is neither meat nor dairy.

personally, my dd is peanut and dairy allergic. i wouldn't give her something that had a kosher dairy designation even if it had no dairy product in it because i know that there is enough dairy in the facility or line to not warrant a parve designation. (does that make sense?)

i also would question general mills on this because they seem to always give the "if there was a chance for cross-contamination, we would have it in the allergy statement" line. if that's true, why did they kosher dairy designation?

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By Carefulmom on Sun, 04-08-07, 02:54

I spoke with a physician on staff there about Bisquick last November. As of then the Bisquick was not on shared lines with milk, and the Kosher dairy symbol was either because it used to be shared lines or might be in the future. I don`t recall which he said. I do let milk allergic dd have Bisquick since it is not shared lines.

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By JacksonsMom on Sun, 04-08-07, 14:36

Thanks Shoshana for explaining that further. I am still so irritated with Gen Mills... I sent them an email this morning:

I am a parent of children with multiple food allergies. Let me start by saying that I have always been very brand loyal to GM/Betty Crocker. My concern is in regards to Bisquick and whether or not it contains milk/dairy in ANY amount. (1 year old has life threatening allergy to dairy). I have always trusted your labeling practices, and am confused as to why there is a Kosher Dairy designation on the front of the box, and no allergen statement for milk on the ingredients. The allergen statement reads only: contains Wheat ingredients. If there is enough dairy or trace dairy in the product to be considered unacceptable by Kosher standards, why isn't there an allergen warning? This is misleading, confusing, and simply unacceptable when people dealing with allergies have potentially FATAL consequences if the allergen is consumed. I have the right to make the decision based on facts
whether or not to feed my child a certain food. Please answer this -- Is Bisquick run on shared lines with dairy? Thank you ,

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By JacksonsMom on Wed, 04-11-07, 21:17

Here is the response I received from Gen Mills.....
Dear Ms. XXX:

Thank you for contacting General Mills with your inquiry.

The Kosher certification and allergen statements are two different things. We do not advise you to use the kosher symbol to determine whether a product is dairy free or vice-versa. In many cases this is true, but kosher agencies are not authorities in regard to allergens.

The reason Bisquick is labeled OUD is because it's made on a production line that is certified as OUD, even though there is no dairy in the product. If there were any possibility of dairy being in the product (either from an ingredient or being produced on the same manufacturing line), we would have to label for it in our allergen statement.

We hope you find this information helpful. Please let us know if we can help you again.

Sincerely,

Rakeb Abeba

Consumer Services

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By Carefulmom on Wed, 04-11-07, 21:34

Like I said in my post above, the physician on staff at General Mills said there is no dairy run on the equipment and the symbol was either due to past equipment sharing or to cover themselves for future equipment sharing. The email you received seems to fit with that.

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By JacksonsMom on Wed, 04-11-07, 22:19

Thanks Carefulmom. I think I am just going to keep using it since we haven't had any problems with it. I am still not completely sure I understand the labeling (kosher) and would hope that if they share lines in the future they will label accordingly.
I am just really burned out on not having many choices due to my kids multiple allergies...and having to call and play detective on every single thing in the pantry - its exhausting.

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