How to keep Epi-pen from getting too hot

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By gus' mom on Wed, 08-02-06, 19:30

Does anyone know of a carrier for Epi-Pens that has a gel-pack to keep it from getting too hot during the summer heat wave? I am using a case designed for insulin syringes, but it is a bit of a tight squeeze.

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By alliedhealth on Wed, 08-02-06, 22:16

We run into this all the time in the south- especially at the beach. One way that works for us is to put the epipens in an insulated small upright vinyl lunchbag. Then to put this inside a larger cooler or bag with cold drinks around the bag. I've been hesitant to use ice for fear of lowering the temp too much. I've been able to keep the bag around 80 max even while at the beach- we have put a data temperature strip normally used for computers inside the bag with the epipen so we actually can tell the approximate temp. of the pens- good in our 100+ weather.

I usually keep additional canned drinks in another cooler to rotate out for longer stays. Our allergist also suggested wrapping ice blocks in towels to avoid getting the pens too cold.

I think I got the lunch bag at Wal-mart last year- upright and is red- can clip on belts too and fit nebulizer/spacer and benadryl.

I'd also appreciate any other ideas.

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By mckennakatesmom on Wed, 08-02-06, 23:55

We have always carried dd's epipens in an insulated lunch bag. We call it her "medicine bag" and she knows that she never goes anywhere without it. Her latest one is "Kim Possible".

It has worked very well for us and has become quite recognizable among our friends, family, and church family. People often comment on it, so she gets to explain what's in there and why (she's 4, and I like that she has these reminders and a chance to tell people about her allergy).

We just try to keep the bag in a shaded area and out of direct sunlight if we are at some outdoor event. This has worked well for us, but I think the cooler idea is a good one if you'll be out on the beach all day.

Shannon

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By melissa on Thu, 08-03-06, 01:23

We have the same problem and I always feel like I'm struggling to keep it not too hot and not too cold.
Gus's Mom: I wonder if I have the same thing you do...it is called a Frio wallet and usually used for insulin. My problem is that it makes the epi container "foggy" (not the medicine but the container itself) and damp and it is a tough squeeze to get 2 pens in there).
Shannon:
Where did you get the insulated lunch bag and how big is it? Do you put anything in there w/ the epi's or just the epi's by themselves?
(And off topic Shannon, I don't have those numbers you want in front of me right now but email me at home if I forget to email them to you in the next day or so)
Melissa

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By vlcarnes on Thu, 08-03-06, 01:41

It was so weird to see this topic posted today as I was looking for this exact subject last night. Today, we went to a Water Country water park and it was 105 degrees. Ultimately, we kept the epipen at the EMT station where it was air conditioned. But, I must say, I was nervous in the park as I never have the epipen more than 20 feet from my daughter. I was on the Internet for a good hour last night trying to find some kind of temperature regulator. My husband finally came down and asked what I was doing. When I told him, he was shocked that there is nothing available because in his words, "It can't possibly be that difficult to manufacture this." After searching an hour on his own, he finally believed me.

Any entrepreneurs out there????? Has FAAN ever published anything about this? Quite frankly, in addition to being dangerous, the lack of some kind of heat/cold resistant carrying case has cost me quite a bit of money. I've left more epipens overnight in my car than I care to admit. I would be great to be able to keep one in there in case of emergency!!!!

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By gus' mom on Thu, 08-03-06, 02:03

I bought a Dia-Pak Daymate from our local pharmacy and I can just get one Epi-pen in it and some Fast-Melt Benedryl tablets, but nothing else. It came with a small gel-pak that I can put in the freezer. I was hoping that there was something else out there, as I can only carry one Epi-pen and it is a TIGHT SQUEEZE to zip it shut.

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By alliedhealth on Thu, 08-03-06, 02:07

our lunch bag (california innovations-walmart) measures 9.5 in high,6.5"wide,3.5 inches depth. When the neb. spacer is not in there the top folds over like a flap. It has a pocket in Front that I keep the emergency info.

I'll see if I can figure out how to post a pix

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By hopechapel on Thu, 08-03-06, 02:18

Didn't someone, awhile back, suggest an insulated baby bottle holder?

Can that person hook us up to a product link?

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By alliedhealth on Thu, 08-03-06, 02:26

[url="http://store.ca-innovations.com/merchanta87f.html?pid=77&lastcatid=5&step=4"]http://store.ca-innovations.com/merchanta87f.html?pid=77&lastcatid=5&step=4[/url]

it is the lunchsak in red- the link below has all their other products many of which would do the trick
[url="http://store.ca-innovations.com/merchant8cda.html"]http://store.ca-innovations.com/merchant8cda.html[/url]

PS- when the neb spacer is in there, the top still zips shut into a standing rectangle shape-very compact

[This message has been edited by alliedhealth (edited August 02, 2006).]

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By mommamia8 on Thu, 08-03-06, 13:21

I've been using a thermos. I thought I read it on here??? Does anyone use a thermos?

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By Shuleran on Thu, 08-03-06, 13:23

Hello
We have an insulated bottle bag that we call "the black bag". We have epi-pens, Benadryl, inhaler, Tylenol for kids and mom, toilet cover seats, bandaids, and Bactine spray. We just take the bag during the winter and we throw a walmart ice gel pack in it during the summer trips to the waterpark. We have never had a problem with the bag getting to hot or to cold. We don't leave it in the car and I treat it like my purse---it is always on my arm or under my chair. This works for us.

[This message has been edited by Shuleran (edited August 03, 2006).]

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By Timmysmom on Thu, 08-03-06, 14:38

I use a cooler bag that has an insulated outer pocket. It keeps it protected but not cold from the gel-pack inside the cooler bag. I've done this every summer, and it works for me. I almost always have my cooler bag filled with drinks for the kids when we're on the go.

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By CVRTBB on Sun, 08-06-06, 05:33

I thought these were an interesting idea... [url="http://store.ca-innovations.com/merchant5839.html?pid=91&lastcatid=5&step=4"]http://store.ca-innovations.com/merchant5839.html?pid=91&lastcatid=5&step=4[/url]
to put into a pocket like the above poster said... hot for winter, cold for summer.

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By ajgauthier on Sun, 08-06-06, 21:46

Quote:Originally posted by hopechapel:
[b]Didn't someone, awhile back, suggest an insulated baby bottle holder?

Can that person hook us up to a product link?[/b]

hiya - I've referenced using a Tupperware insulated baby bottle carrier before, as someone else on here mentioned it. I called a Tupperware agent (if you go to the tupperware.com website and type in your zipcode you get a rep's email) and they no longer are made, but new ones are still around. It's a teal green with lavender zipper and strap...it's fairly large, holds 1 full size bottle (like a 12 oz bottle).

It has a main compartment for the bottle and then an upper zippered compartment about 1.5" deep.

For me...it holds 3 epis, benadryl liquicaps, benadryl chewables, other meds (like advil, tums, etc), and a small bottle of benadryl elixer.

Tucson is hot, obviously, so I use this to carry my epis year round. In the warmer/hotter months...I put it in the freezer over night (take the meds out of course), then in the morning I pop everything in and away I go. It stays cool all day in my day/laptop bag or purse. If I'm to be outside at all, like camping, or hiking...then I put 2-3 of the reusable "fake icecube" things in the bottom, a small washcloth (like a baby's) over that, then the epi's (needle side up). In the top separate compartment I throw another 2-3 fake icecubes in.

I've checked a few times with a thermometer and it stays cool and within range. Honestly, I'm more worried about the medication getting too warm and expiring than it getting too cold for the needle to work. I read their insert/report and it's such a small percentage at a really low temp that the needle doesn't work.

This past weekend at the beach (I'm in MA on vacation), I wanted to make sure it stayed cool since it was so darn hot...So I wrapped the epi's in a towel, then into the carrier (all other medicine taken out), then that whole thing went in the cooler. It didn't get hot and the insulation helped it from getting too cold.

hope that helps!

Adrienne

PS. So I worked at a summer camp this summer and this parent sent their kid on a 10-day overnight camp with 2 epi's for bee-sting allergy. Mind you, the woman didn't call me like she was supposed to (very large bold italics boxed print about calling me to notify us of injectables and inhalers!) Anyhoot - so she shows up and I ask for the epis to put in the insulated med kit (this is in Arizona). She throws a bit of a fit about it, she claimed her son had them all wrapped up and prepared correctly. Right, so I ask to see it so our first-aid/med guy can "approve it" (we are liable while he is in our care). So...the boy whips out this mesh bag contraption wrapped in a t-shirt. He had the twin-pak epi box with a large freezerpak (like the rock hard plastic ones) on each side of the box...wrapped in a t-shirt in a mesh bag. Oh...My...

that's a lesson on "what not to do"

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By amartin on Mon, 08-07-06, 15:23

I use a small thermos too and it works great. Our allergist also recommended this.

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By ajgauthier on Mon, 08-07-06, 15:46

Quote:Originally posted by amartin:
[b]I use a small thermos too and it works great. Our allergist also recommended this. [/b]

I'd never thought of a Thermos - what a great idea! very durable if going camping/hiking

Adrienne

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By Melrose Mum on Tue, 08-08-06, 01:53

I just bumped an old thread about keeping epis cool. I'm still kicking myself....
what planet was I on that this did not get 'out'
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Diane

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