Vaccines, medicine, leaky gut cause food allergies

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By barbfeick on Sat, 04-18-09, 18:18

Why are people becoming allergic to peanuts? I ate lots of peanut butter growing up. I fed peanut butter to my four children. I had never heard of anyone having a peanut allergy. But now there is an "epidemic"?

I read in the book “Healing the New Childhood Epidemics, Autism, ADHD, Asthma, and Allergies”, by Kenneth Bock, M.D. and Cameron Stauth about his theories about allergies and how he is actually healing the children. He told about another doctor - both of her daughters got the fatal peanut allergy and one died from it.

I came up with what I thought was a crazy idea. What if peanut products are used in childhood immunizations? If that was the case, then the source of the allergy was in the shot that was injected into the child’s body and directly caused the allergy.

Sounded a bit wild but I decided to search the web to see if my hypothesis has any merit.

First, I was shocked by the number of immunizations given to children these days. The number of recommended immunizations increased about the same time that the peanut allergy epidemic began.

I started by googling peanut and different words to see what would come up.

I found this website by the World Health Organization that talked about peanut oil and soy oil being so safe that it did not need to be listed as an allergenic ingredient. [1] The safety evaluation also talked about peanut oil being an ingredient in baby formula and as a carrier of Vitamin D. How can these oils be so absolutely safe that they don't have to be listed as an ingredient in things?

The WHO article said that they used refine peanut oil and did a skin prick test to determine if peanut oil is dangerous for people who are allergic to peanuts. They didn’t react to the skin prick test. So peanut oil is therefore safe to be used in cosmetics, medicines, and baby formula! And is the skin prick test reliable enough to determine a product as being safe for allergic people to consume or have injected into their muscles or bloodstreams?

I found several studies that said that the skin prick test was not accurate enough to determine if there is an allergy. "Many children are erroneously told they have a peanut allergy because the standard skin-prick test is not accurate enough, a new study suggests."[2] "Allergy skin tests detect only the presence of antibodies. They cannot make an accurate determination that an allergy exists." [3]

So a child could have a peanut allergy and may or may not react to a skin prick test. Sounds like the only way to know for sure is from a bad experience.

But what happened with the WHO study? Are people following it? Is peanut oil and soy oil being used in products without appearing on the label? Is refined peanut oil really that safe?
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I found this post on another site:

http://journeytocrunchville.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/is-there-a-connecti...

On my son’s 6th month well baby checkup, he had a full food allergy blood test, for all common allergen (we did this because he was having threads of blood in his stool, and doc wanted to rule out allergy). All his results came back negative for everything– no allergies.

After his blood was drawn, he was also given his full battery of six-month vaccines.

One month later, my wife served him milk for the first time, in the form of baby yogurt. My son turned red wherever the milk touched him. The next allergy test showed him with fairly high numbers for EVERYTHING– he literally reacted to everything except shrimp in that blood test. Milk especially, though.

I am fairly convinced it was the six-month vaccines that did it. We hadn’t been giving him milk beforehand, and we know for a fact that he’d never had peanuts at all. For him to suddenly turn up allergic to both, when his tests were negative the DAY OF the vaccines is too much coincidence for us to ignore.
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[1] http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v44jec11.htm, International Programme on Chemical Safety, World Health Organization, Safety Evaluation of Certain Food Additives and Contaminants, Whoo Food Additives Series: 44, Prepared by the Fifty-third meeting of the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA), World Health Organization, Geneva, 2000, IPCS - International Programme on Chemical Safety, Potential Allergenicity of Refined Food Products, Peanut Oils and Soya Bean Oils. First draft prepared by Dr J.B. Greig, Joint Food Safety & Standards Group, Department of Health, London, United Kingdom

[2] http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11859-peanut-allergy-is-misdiagnos..., Pediatric Allergy and Immunology (vol 18, p 231)

[3] http://www.ehealthmd.com/library/foodallergies/FA_how.html, EHealth MD, How Do I Find Out If I Have Food Allergies?, October 2004

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By lakeswimr on Sun, 04-19-09, 21:15

I wondered if vaccines had anything to do with it but I do know many people on another board who have children with food allergies who did NOT vaccinate. My own son showed signs of his allergies on his first day of life well before he had had any vaccines so I know vaccines, if they are related at all, are not the sole cause of food allergies. The book you first mentioned to me is a dangerous thing because there is NOT any cure yet for food allergies. There are treatments in trial still and they have been used on a small # of people so far. There are a lot of alternative practitioners who are wonderful but many tend to lump all food reactions together as 'allergies' and don't fully appreciate that food allergies can be fatal.

Allergists will tell you that skin and CAP RAST blood tests are only about 50% accurate and that people should not be diagnosed with an allergy based solely on a test result alone because of this. Unfortunately there are some doctors who aren't up on this info and some who are wrongly diagnosed with food allergies when they may not have them.

However, both skin and CAP RAST blood tests are about 90% or higher in accuracy to show someone is NOT allergic to food. They have done tests on highly processed oils such as peanut and these oils do not show remaining protein almost ever. It is very, exceptionally rare for any protein at all to survive. It could happen and we do totally avoid highly processed peanut oil but highly processed peanut oil *should* be safe for peanut allergic people 99.9999999% of the time.

I think there are many, many possible reasons for the increase in food allergies. One is what DS's allergist believes which is that unlike some other diseases that tend to decrease in the population over time (for example, osteoarthritis tends to be LESS severe with each generation), allergies tend to naturally increase and get *more* severe in each generation so the increase isn't anything odd or stranger but just natural. That could be true.

It could come from the hygene theory stuff, formula feeding infants, vaccines, GMO foods, exposure to toxic chemicals, lack of being outdoors enough, processed foods, and a host of other things. We know the way America processes peanuts causes the proteins to be stronger and that they way peanuts are processed in China doesn't do this. Peanut allergy is much more common in America where the protein of the peanuts we eat is more potent than in China. The frequency a food is eaten also seems to make a difference with more common foods being more allergenic to people so maybe eating a given food too often has an effect. There could be a lot of other reasons, too.

My family, going back to at least my Great grandparents' generation, had people with various types of allergies (unsure if any had food allergies) and 2 of my Grandparents had food allergies so it isn't so odd that my son has them. Everyone related to him has one type of allergy or another.

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By barbfeick on Mon, 04-20-09, 15:45

The post was just the beginning of my Internet research on peanut allergy.

I found out many things.

Babies are now routinely vaccinated as newborns at the hospital in several states without requesting permission from the parents.

Newborns have a "leaky gut" and can develop food allergies when fed formulas. Some formulas contain peanut oil.

Children can develop food allergies after taking medications such as antibiotics.

An overgrowth of yeast in the body can trigger food allergies.

Are vaccines responsible for ALL the food allergies. No. Vaccines are responsible for most of the cases of food allergies. And I believe that the fatal allergies are all vaccine related.

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By lakeswimr on Mon, 04-20-09, 21:10

Those are a lot of theories. Allergists and research scientists are studying this. I have never read anything that would make me feel certain about any of the things you said. I don't know about other states but I did not give permission for my son to be vaccinated in the hospital and he stayed with me the whole time from birth. He never had formula.

Also, it seems that early exposure to allergens can cause *sensitization* but that early exposure might actually *prevent* food allergies rather than cause them. It seemed that early exposure was causing them but newer research shows the opposite and the jury is still out but leaning toward early exposure preventing them.

I have never read anything about children developing food allergies after taking antibiotics. I would think if that were for sure true we would hear FAAN and allergist and books written by top allergists talking about this link. I have not heard that one even being studied. NOt saying it can't be true but I would hesitate to believe something that isn't being even discussed (to my knowledge anyway) my mainstream experts in a given field.

I certain for sure have never heard yeast connected to *IgE mediated life threatening food allergies*. Never. I have heard some naturopaths who lump IgE food allergies in with other non-life threatening food-related conditions say things like this but it is far, far from something proven. I would doubt that has anything to do with food allergies. I could be wrong.

You could be right about vaccines. We do give children more vaccines than ever however, the fact that there are a bunch of kids I know who are not vaxed and who have LTFood allergies to me says that can't be it. I wish we knew what caused it. I think it might be highly processed foods (not that my kid got those, either as a baby/toddler).

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By barbfeick on Mon, 05-18-09, 12:17

(Moved to blog on this site)

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By barbfeick on Mon, 05-18-09, 12:17

Moved to blog on this website

Peanut allergy and antibiotics

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By barbfeick on Mon, 04-20-09, 22:37

Also medicine is a business, a big business. Remember all the stuff about mercury in dental fillings. Safe to have in your teeth but hazardous waste as soon as it is removed. Did the dental profession jump up and tell us that mercury fillings are a bad idea? No.

It is the same with the rest of the medical profession. You are a pediatrician and you make your living giving shots to babies and children. Are you going to cut out a huge portion of your practice?

The medical profession is NOT studying vaccines and allergies or antibiotics and allergies.

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By lakeswimr on Tue, 04-21-09, 00:43

Sorry. not convinced. The author didn't do a research study, just came up with a theory and looked for things that 'proved' this theory. That's not science. The theory is based on the idea that early exposure to food proteins causes food allergies. Look at the part where the author claims that the fact that children have sesame allergy in Israel and France and claims this must be because vaccines there contain sesame. That's a circular argument. The fact is that people in Israel eat a TON of sesame and allergy researchers believe that's why it is a top allergen there. They eat more of it than people in the USA. This guy has picked and chosen what he would write to prove his theory. I'm not buying it. If he really had the answer FAAN, ana canada, the CDC, etc would be listening. There are millions of dollars of real research $ going to discovering the cause of food allergies and if someone knew the cause already FAAN, etc would be shouting to the world, I'm sure. I'm not saying vaccines don't have anything to do with it. They may. But it hasn't been proven yet.

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By barbfeick on Tue, 04-21-09, 12:09

"The author didn't do a research study..."

I beg your pardon? How many research studies have you read? This was a research study.
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"The theory is based on the idea that early exposure to food proteins causes food allergies." - That is what all the allergy experts except one believe. You must have first exposure to develop antibodies.

pg 33 - "A virgin immune system has no reason to launch an all-out attack on a harmless food. It has to be properly sensitized to the food first (through an initial exposure)."

Food Allergies for Dummies by Robert A. Wood, MD, Professor of Pediatrics and Chief of Pediatric Allergy and Immunology, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine with Jo Kraynak, Wiley Publishing, Inc. 2007

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"Look at the part where the author claims that the fact that children have sesame allergy in Israel and France and claims this must be because vaccines there contain sesame. That's a circular argument. The fact is that people in Israel eat a TON of sesame and allergy researchers believe that's why it is a top allergen there. They eat more of it than people in the USA."

They also eat a ton of peanuts and have NO peanut allergy in Israel. Why no peanut allergies? The Israeli children living in the UK have peanut allergies in the same proportion as the rest of the UK children.

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"This guy has picked and chosen what he would write to prove his theory. I'm not buying it. If he really had the answer FAAN, ana canada, the CDC, etc would be listening."

No, they wouldn't be listening. The CDC's goal has been to push vaccinations. They are not going to do a total reversal and suggest waiting until the child is 2 years old and not doing any more multiple vaccinations.
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"There are millions of dollars of real research $ going to discovering the cause of food allergies "

No, the millions of dollars is not looking for the cause of food allergies. The research is looking for treatments. Treatments make money. Prevention does not.

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By lakeswimr on Tue, 04-21-09, 00:45

Also, there have been research studies that found ZERO protein remaining in highly processed oils. It is claims that no matter how processed "protein will always remain" etc in that article that make me close my ears to the whole thing. sorry.

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By barbfeick on Tue, 04-21-09, 12:01

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~Dms/Alrgn.Html "but that the most highly refined oils contained 0.2-2.2 µg/ml of protein."

They can't totally refine every bit of protein out of the oil. If the oil is only eaten, it probably doesn't cause as big of a problem. When the oil is mixed with the aluminum in the vaccine adjuvant, the aluminum greatly magnifies the body's immune response.

There is no such thing as ZERO protein in the oil.

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